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Old 03-31-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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The house is in a less than desirable area. It was purchased in Sept 2014 for $380k and has been flipped.

They went on sale in Janurary at $649k.
In March, the price dropped to $639k.

I spoke with the listing agent at a open house on Sunday and she mentioned they haven't received any offers yet.

Though speculative, I believe the house is in a up and coming area. This is in Los Angeles and near a train stop that will eventually connect major parts of the city, downtown, Santa Monica, LAX, etc...

Thinking about offering $575k. I have 20% and have proof of qualified traditional financing.

Is that a low ball offer? Or, since the neighborhood is so / so, should I keep looking?

Comps are saying $575k is still a high offer, but this is a run down neighborhood and most of the houses need lots of work. This house has just been flipped, with a new roof, plumbing, electrical, etc...

Thoughts?
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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Buy a house in the best location you can afford. You can improve your house, you can't improve a neighborhood. Come time to resell, it will make a BIG difference.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Originally Posted by iama30something View Post
This is in Los Angeles and ...
The house is in a less than desirable area.
near a train stop

I spoke with the listing agent at a open house on Sunday
and she mentioned they haven't received any offers yet.
was purchased in Sept 2014 for $380k

Thinking about offering $575k.
I have 20% and have proof of qualified traditional financing.
Is that a low ball offer?
No it's not.

I think it's HIGH. Way high.
Why so much more than the price from 6 months ago?

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Thoughts?
Get out of Los Angeles
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Sorry. buying a flip in the ghetto based on potential is folly. there's a reason why that price is sinking. look elsewhere.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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I think it's HIGH. Way high.
Why so much more than the price from 6 months ago?
OP said it was a flip. So someone bought it, fixed it up, and is re-selling it, that's why the price is higher.

To the OP: It's 90% of the original offer, so it's not really that much of a low-ball -- the question, of course, is if you are willing to go any higher. They will probably feel that it is an opening salvo in the negotiation process. To avoid time-consuming back-and-forth, if $575K is your top offer, you might want to make that clear on your offer.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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Seems high......bot for 380; some (cheap) rehab work....maybe $50/sq ft?.....so if it is a 2500 sq ft home, add 125 to their purchase price; they want to make 25 for their effort/risk, so the "right" price might be somewhere in the neighborhood of 530.

Offer them 500 if YOU are willing to take the risk off of their shoulders; maybe be flexible up to 525.

They should be so lucky to find a well qualified buyer like you willing to take in the risk.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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This is in Los Angeles and near a train stop that will eventually connect major parts of the city, downtown, Santa Monica, LAX, etc...
When?
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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You better have the best inspector you can find! Flips are notorious for using cheapest quality and short-cuts. Not everyone is HGTV. I would not buy it but that's just me.

Are you interested in an investment or a house to live in?
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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OP said it was a flip.
I saw that and ignored it.

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So someone bought it, (allegedly) fixed it up, and is re-selling it...
To the OP: It's 90% of the original offer, so it's not really that much of a low-ball
Immaterial.

If it's a quality flip (highly doubtful) the questions about the breadth and depth
of the alleged "improvements" are what should dictate any subsequent decisions.

What was wrong with it at $380,000?
What, rather specifically, was done beyond cosmetics?
What is the real value of that work?

Giving EVERY benefit of doubt to the flipper...
I'll still say that $575 in this circumstance is high. WAY high.

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buying a flip in the ghetto based on potential is folly.
there's a reason why that price is sinking.

look elsewhere.
^^What she said.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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Based only on your description, I wouldn't touch it. You need to be extra wary when buying a house which has been rehabbed by a flipper. Oftentimes, they will cut corners just to make more money...and covering up problems is not unheard of.

The biggest negative is that you say it is in a run down neighborhood. You can fix a house, but you can't fix a neighborhood. You also said that according to the comps your price is high.

That said, I don't know LA and I especially don't know that neighborhood or the house. I just think that it calls for extreme caution. If you like run-down neighborhoods, why don't you buy a cheap house and fix it up yourself? It's better to be the flipper than the flippee.

Remember, it's far better to buy the worst house in a great neighborhood than it is to buy the best house in a bad neighborhood.
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