What questions can R.E. Agents legally answer? (negotiations, investments, prices)

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Silverfall

I think I was "tested" once. It was the most bizarre conversation. This guy wanted to buy a used car lot for Hispanics.

I don't think that was necessary a test.

Usually testing is only done when dealing with residential properties. Not commercial. Fair Housing does not apply to commercial

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Scott Secor

LOL

What does it say about someone who locks their car doors in their own garage? (I have done that for 40 years.)

Me too .

It did not matter that the agent locked their car door. What mattered was that it was not consistent. The agent's behavior changed, dependent upon the neighborhood. That's what got him nailed.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Agreed.

These types of tests are done regularly. And, if a alleged violation is found, the real estate company (Broker) is contacted along with the Agent. More often than not, a settlement is reached that includes FH training and to cover the cost of the testing etc.

These settlements, by design, are not public record cases (in most cases) and therefore cannot / would not be found on the internet.

BINGO.

Every Chicagoland Coldwell Banker agent was required to attend mandatory 3 hour Fair Housing education above and beyond the board mandated CE education, as a small part of the settlement. CB is an obvious target for testing becauseof its size, in this market. Testing and violations however, are harldly limited to CB. And like with anything, it's a few bad or ignorant (of the law) apples taking liberties that cause problems.

It is not lost on any agent that some of us are unkowingly investing time and money into protracted relationships with testers, on both sides of the transaction. Not the first or last time an agent's chain will be pulled. Those of us who live by the law have nothing to worry about and will probably never know we were being tested. It's just another client who changed their mind about buying or selling property.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

BINGO.

Every Chicagoland Coldwell Banker agent was required to attend mandatory 3 hour Fair Housing education above and beyond the board mandated CE education, as a small part of the settlement. CB is an obvious target for testing becauseof its size, in this market. Testing and violations however, are harldly limited to CB. And like with anything, it's a few bad or ignorant (of the law) apples taking liberties that cause problems.

It is not lost on any agent that some of us are unkowingly investing time and money into protracted relationships with testers, on both sides of the transaction. Not the first or last time an agent's chain will be pulled. Those of us who live by the law have nothing to worry about and will probably never know we were being tested. It's just another client who changed their mind about buying or selling property.

While I cannot give you "insider secrets" let me just say - I train people to be testers - all over the country

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Greatday

While I cannot give you "insider secrets" let me just say - I train people to be testers - all over the country

Then, as you know, a good tester cannot be detected.

Given your location, perhaps you might consider sending your students out to practice their skills on oldcapt.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

Then, as you know, a good tester cannot be detected.

Given your location, perhaps you might consider sending your students out to practice their skills on oldcapt.

GD and Olecapt are well acquainted...GD in fact lives in Las Vegas.

Testers and olecapt would be a waste of everyone's time. This area provides little opportunity and Olecapt's practice even less.

Olecapt is however at the moment showing a Catholic couple those homes within a mile of specified churches...as he was instructed in writing by the client. And He would fight for his right to do so.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by olecapt

GD and Olecapt are well acquainted...GD in fact lives in Las Vegas.

Las Vegas AND Gold Canyon, Arizona Capt

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Las Vegas AND Gold Canyon, Arizona Capt

But of course...and I said nothing contrary to that. One can live in more than one place as your location inidicates.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Olecapt is however at the moment showing a Catholic couple those homes within a mile of specified churches...as he was instructed in writing by the client. And He would fight for his right to do so.

But of course. Your clients have made it clear their desire to be near specified churches. The buyer can be as selective as they so desire.

This is very different than assuming they belong there or would not like that terrific house near the temple, just because they were Catholic.

Just make sure you either always lock or not your car door.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

But of course. Your clients have made it clear their desire to be near specified churches. The buyer can be as selective as they so desire.

This is very different than assuming they belong there or would not like that terrific house near the temple, just because they were Catholic.

Just make sure you either always lock or not your car door.

But of course...they precisely specified churches with specific addresses as the center point of circular searches. Which means it is utterly clean. But if they specified "someplace near a catholic church"? Or what do you do with "I can't stand the Jews walking by...find me a place well away from the synagogues"? Or "I don't want to live within a mile of the following synagogues..."


Actually that is the subject of the famed letter. The Feds said effectively that...if the client requests specifically a neighborhood of specific ethnicity the RE Agent can show to that specification. Then she wrote another memo saying that she did not mean that...and that a new policy would quickly be published...and of course no further policy has been put forth.

I suspect all of the above examples were in fact legal. Not sure I would take certain of them for personal reasons...

Then again if i get a real redneck who does not want to live anywhere where "they" are...I suggest "they" are everywhere and her only hope is to move to Overton or Amagorsa where nobody lives. They generally knock it off.