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Old 01-08-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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I am a buyer and I closed on a house just last week and the seller's are staying in the home for 30 days. It just snowed yesterday and a friend who lives nearby told me today that the snow in front of the house (sidewalk) has not been shoveled.

In the Possession Agreement both parties signed, under Maintenance and Compliance, it said "During Seller use and occupancy of the premises, Seller shall keep the premises in good condition and repair at Seller's Sole expense and shall comply with all governmental ordinances and regulations concerning the premises". Doesn't this mean the Seller's are responsible for shoveling the under until they move out next month?

Today is Sunday and I called the seller's agent but he doesn't pick up. I also do not have a buyer's agent. What should I do? Do I have to go and shovel the snow myself? I live at least an hour away from the house and this is in NYC.

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Old 01-08-2017, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Is the "governmental ordinances" saying they need to shovel snow? I don't live in an area where you need to shovel snow, but I would think it's more of a convenience than a need. What harm is it doing?
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ > Raleigh, NC
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Why does the snow HAVE to be shoveled? I say this while I stare out my window, surrounded by homes that, like us, have decided to just let it melt.

Seriously - the other homes I owned were in phoenix, so I'm moderately ignorant on this topic. But what's the difference if it just sits there until it melts?

Note: we're in Raleigh, so we're talking more about ice and little accumulation.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Why does the snow HAVE to be shoveled? I say this while I stare out my window, surrounded by homes that, like us, have decided to just let it melt.

Seriously - the other homes I owned were in phoenix, so I'm moderately ignorant on this topic. But what's the difference if it just sits there until it melts?

Note: we're in Raleigh, so we're talking more about ice and little accumulation.
In NYC, you have to shovel the snow in the sidewalk area in front of the home since there is liability if someone walks by and slips in front of your house and decides to sue...
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Why does the snow HAVE to be shoveled? I say this while I stare out my window, surrounded by homes that, like us, have decided to just let it melt.

Seriously - the other homes I owned were in phoenix, so I'm moderately ignorant on this topic. But what's the difference if it just sits there until it melts?

Note: we're in Raleigh, so we're talking more about ice and little accumulation.
Often the city requires sidewalks to be shoveled.
And it might not melt until April... (But it's supposed to be in the 50s later this week)
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Based on your contract sounds like yes they are responsible, but I don't see why you need to make an issue out of it so soon. Although I know NYC is a different animal, is it likely to get a fine?
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Bloomington IN
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Often ordinances regarding snow shoveling allow 24 hours after the snow fall has ended. What is the requirement in NYC? I'm guessing it's a shorter time frame.

Do you not have the phone number of the people living in your house? To depend on the agent to continue to act as a middle man is irresponsible. First thing you should do is get their number.

And yes, based on what you wrote, they are responsible for snow removal since it's likely a government regulation.
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: S.W. Florida
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When I lived in Ohio it was a no brainer that you kept your walk clear or risk a lawsuit when someone slipped and hurt themselves. In today's lawsuit crazed society no way would I risk it. If I were the OP I would make a phone call to the seller and ask him nicely to please keep the walk clear. Then I'd call his agent on Monday and tell him that he needs to reemphasize this to him.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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This is your home. These are your tenants. You have an agreement with them. You shouldn't need to go through their Realtor.

They are required to shovel. Call them.

Don't wait. If you wind up having to hire someone to shovel in order to prevent a lawsuit from a slip and fall on the sidewalk in front of your house, take the cost out of their deposit.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Thanks everyone for the replies. The seller shoveled. I guess they just decided to do it later in the day.
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