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Old 01-29-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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While it probably can't solve the problem completely, is there a way that you can put up a few strategically placed trees (even large potted ones). If you can get a couple of trees taller than 8-9 feet, that could provide enough cover extended above the fence. Maybe not allowed with the HOA? just a thought.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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I'm with the camera crowd. It's perfectly legal to have a security camera aimed at your property. Second, discuss it with the HOA again and tell them throwing rocks at an elderly woman is not childish hijinks, or an argument between neighbors, it's assault and if it happens again, the police will be called. Call them. As many times as you have to.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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Elder abuse by those kids and assault & battery.

Call the police!
Report this https://www.caregiver.org/adult-prot...buse-hotline-1

Your Mom should have reported the situation with the dog to animal control. Animal cruelty is a felony in most States.

Obviously these people don't care about their own pet....they don't give a crap about your Mom, or their own kids.

Call and get her some help with the above agency that I linked. They will at least know what to do, and they may be able to get involved.

If there is stuff being thrown into her yard, tell her to call the police. They can see the stuff if she leaves it there and calls immediately. CPS might be worth a call too, because the parents are obviously neglecting their children if they are able to stand there and torment the next door neighbor.

Also, since you say other neighbors are aware....why not go help your mom start a petition to take to the HOA.

Gads, I miss the days when you could march over and talk to the parents and it would be stopped immediately.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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I agree with the security cameras and calling the police after you have them on video. Not sure what I would do if any one was throwing rocks at my mom. It would be hard for me not to go talk to them.
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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Bottom line? This won't resolve until one of them moves.
Or dies.
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Better be careful with the camera and kids.

We once had a similar situation with really obnoxious neighbors and their kids (not quite as aggressive as this example). We were going to get them on camera, so the the parents called the police on us!

You see, parents are in a general state of paranoia about 'sex offenders' and apparently disruptions in your neighborhood involving kids are not allowed to be documented with cameras. They think everyone is after something evil with their little darlings, and not concerned about the fact that the kids are rude brats--like anyone even wants pictures of their moronic children.

The police told us we should move and noted that you cannot film underage kids 'these days.' In the end, we moved--didn't like the suburban area much anyhow. Beware--bratty kids can get away with almost anything 'these days.'
I second this warning. OP, please do not let your mother film these kids in their yard. She could get into a whole lot of trouble if she does that. She can certainly set up cameras to record whatever's going on in her yard, but not in theirs.

Apparently the 6-foot fence between the two yards is the sort that allows the kids to be able to see your mom -- you mentioned that they watch her reaction to their throwing things. Is it possible to replace the fence with something more solid, so they can't see her? So they don't even know when she's out in her yard? If they can't see her reaction, I think they'll soon grow tired of throwing junk into her yard.
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Old 01-29-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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I second this warning. OP, please do not let your mother film these kids in their yard. She could get into a whole lot of trouble if she does that. She can certainly set up cameras to record whatever's going on in her yard, but not in theirs.

Apparently the 6-foot fence between the two yards is the sort that allows the kids to be able to see your mom -- you mentioned that they watch her reaction to their throwing things. Is it possible to replace the fence with something more solid, so they can't see her? So they don't even know when she's out in her yard? If they can't see her reaction, I think they'll soon grow tired of throwing junk into her yard.
I do not know where this silliness is coming from. You can film anything you want from public property or your own property. And there is no law against filming kids particularly ones attacking your property or your person. Simply set up a camera or two that looks at your yard and theirs. Perfectly legal. And if a cop questions it call his superior or, even better, have your lawyer do it.

A kid is actually just like anyone else. Has to have a reasonable expectation of privacy before photographing violates any right. Any kid throwing stuff over the wall has no such expectation.

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Old 01-29-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I do not know where this silliness is coming from. You can film anything you want from public property or your own property. And there is no law against filming kids particularly ones attacking your property or your person. Simply set up a camera or two that looks at your yard and theirs. Perfectly legal. And if a cop questions it call his superior or, even better, have your lawyer do it.

A kid is actually just like anyone else. Has to have a reasonable expectation of privacy before photographing violates any right. Any kid throwing stuff over the wall has no such expectation.
Yep.
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Old 01-29-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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You see, parents are in a general state of paranoia about 'sex offenders' and apparently disruptions in your neighborhood involving kids are not allowed to be documented with cameras.
That's false. You can use video to record what kids do. However, putting a camera up high so that it looks down over the fence and films what's going on in the neighbors' yard is a bit more potentially troublesome from a legal standpoint.

Perhaps you should mount the camera like 6 feet off the ground but make sure it's oriented to capture pictures of anything coming over the fence as well as audio of what's being said. That's all you really need.

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Old 01-29-2018, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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I fail to see why the HOA is even a party to this, unless throwing rocks over the wall is discussed in the covenants.
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