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Old 02-28-2018, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Is it possible that a tenant(S) left the water running in their absence to avoid freezing pipes?
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Boise
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Op, don't rent to college kids unless every parent signs for them and you valid credit cards.
I had 23 rentals at one point, and I quickly learned legal ways to discriminate against certain tenant profiles.

Attorneys, no way, people with too many kids for the size of my home, college kids, and unfortunately at the end Reservists and Guardsman.

I had a couple of service members who hid behind the serviceman's and sailors relief act and no lawyer would touch the case. I had to call their unit but both cases, the unit was deployed to the middle east, so you don't get any senior NCO or Officers at the rear detachment so it went no where. Finally, I used shame to get them out. It was so sad, as I come from an Army family and served myself. Not everyone in uniform is a hero.....
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:22 AM
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Location: Here and now.
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If itís a smart meter, can they give you a day-to-day breakdown on water usage? Mine can. At least that way you can see if itís been a high daily average or a huge spike.

My theory : One of those college students left a faucet running while they were gone for Christmas break.
There is no way a single faucet would account for that.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I worked at a water district for 17 years, and currently bill tenants (commercial/industrial) for utilities. I have seen all kinds of reasons for high bills that are not easily apparent, and we would do complete inspections for people to help find their problem. One is the pressure relief valve on a water heater. Most of them have a pipe running outside in an area where people don't often go, such as on the side. If there is a wet spot or dead plants where that pipe comes out of the wall, the relief valve has been opening and that's 25+ gallons/minute, and would also increase the gas or electric bills some. Underground leaks in the house line from the meter can often find cracks in the soil beneath and not show up as wet spots.
That can easily be tested by shutting off the house valve, often near the front yard faucet, and see if the meter is moving.
Crawl under if you have a crawl space and see if you have water puddled from a leaking pipe under the floors. When the consumption is that high but returns to normal, it could still be the water heater, but is most likely something left running while no one was there, perhaps on vacation for several days. We have also had cases where a neighbor had their water turned off for non-payment, and they attached a hose to a backyard faucet to steal water.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:00 AM
 
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Is it possible that a tenant(S) left the water running in their absence to avoid freezing pipes?
That wouldn't account for the cost. We once trickled our water through one faucet for one month, night and day, during a particularly harsh winter. It added $25 to our water bill.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Weed growing?

Someone diverting your water to their use?
weed? Maybe flooding a Rice paddy...
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Op, don't rent to college kids unless every parent signs for them and you valid credit cards.
And I can tell you, that any parent would dispute that charge in a heartbeat.

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I had 23 rentals at one point, and I quickly learned legal ways to discriminate against certain tenant profiles.

Attorneys, no way, people with too many kids for the size of my home, college kids, and unfortunately at the end Reservists and Guardsman.

I had a couple of service members who hid behind the serviceman's and sailors relief act and no lawyer would touch the case. I had to call their unit but both cases, the unit was deployed to the middle east, so you don't get any senior NCO or Officers at the rear detachment so it went no where. Finally, I used shame to get them out. It was so sad, as I come from an Army family and served myself. Not everyone in uniform is a hero.....
What do you mean, "Hide Behind?" Its the law.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: la la land
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I don't know how your sprinkler system is set up, but here the water to the sprinklers first goes through the house, after it is metered.
It can do that, or the smart meter can communicate wirelessly with an outside meter, either way works but it's clear that just because you get a smart meter they are no longer going to track usage from the water main, only once it enters your house
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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What do you mean, "Hide Behind?" Its the law.
Just because it's the law doesn't mean that someone won't use it to escape their personal obligations.

Heck, some people even file bankruptcy multiple times in order to cheat suppliers out of their rightful payments. Just because there are legal loopholes which enable people to avoid personal responsibility doesn't make it right.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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Is it possible that a tenant(S) left the water running in their absence to avoid freezing pipes?
I don't think so, we had to keep two faucets slightly open to avoid freezing when we lived in Reno and it added maybe $15 a month to our water bill
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Just because it's the law doesn't mean that someone won't use it to escape their personal obligations.

Heck, some people even file bankruptcy multiple times in order to cheat suppliers out of their rightful payments. Just because there are legal loopholes which enable people to avoid personal responsibility doesn't make it right.
Sounds like an "Orange Man" in a "White House". 'nuff said.....
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