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Old 03-27-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by janet bubby View Post
The partial fence sounds like a fantastic idea. Trespassers unfortunately don't usually respond well to anything but a fence.
They respond best to a lawyer's letter or a court order. A fence is just a hint.
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee Area of WI
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Sending out a letter today to the encroaching neighbor to the east of the property. He is the one with part of his shed on our land, riding lawn mower, canoe and firewood. It was a nice typed out letter
I basically said "We are your neighbors that border your back yard and we have noticed lately a few neighbors are using part of our land. We pulled our 'Plat of Survey' and a copy is enclosed. We will be putting up a green boarder fence starting at the start of the woods on our property and running down to the southeast corner and over the the southwest corner. We are doing this to keep everyone honest and for any future owners of this property. We don't want any hard feelings or negativity. We understand if someone has to come onto our property for something that might have gone onto the property or if a dog runs through--we don't care about that. We will be putting up this fence once the ground thaws so please remove any of your items within the next week or so. Thank you for your understanding."
Blah blah blah. LOL
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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Sounds good in general tone. I do hope it helps.
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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I hope it is well received. You certainly sound reasonable and polite, and I hope they take it that way and aren’t jerks
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Old 03-28-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Good fences make good neighbors. We learned that and other proverbs in elementary school. All of them are still true!
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Old 03-28-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee Area of WI
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I hope it is well received. You certainly sound reasonable and polite, and I hope they take it that way and arenít jerks
Me too Schmooky!!
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: NC
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Nicely written letter. But remember, a plat is not a survey so you might get some pushback if the neighbors have had a survey done and it came out differently. But your plat may indeed show identical boundaries to a new survey so hopefully they will not contest it.

Last edited by luv4horses; 03-28-2018 at 03:31 PM..
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Old 03-29-2018, 03:15 AM
 
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Sending out a letter today to the encroaching neighbor to the east of the property. He is the one with part of his shed on our land, riding lawn mower, canoe and firewood. It was a nice typed out letter
I basically said "We are your neighbors that border your back yard and we have noticed lately a few neighbors are using part of our land. We pulled our 'Plat of Survey' and a copy is enclosed. We will be putting up a green boarder fence starting at the start of the woods on our property and running down to the southeast corner and over the the southwest corner. We are doing this to keep everyone honest and for any future owners of this property. We don't want any hard feelings or negativity. We understand if someone has to come onto our property for something that might have gone onto the property or if a dog runs through--we don't care about that. We will be putting up this fence once the ground thaws so please remove any of your items within the next week or so. Thank you for your understanding."
Blah blah blah. LOL
Both highlighted passages are unnecessary and indicate you believe they have been dishonest and make your note sound quite negative. You believe, based on your reading of the survey, that they are over the line; even if they are there is no indication that they have done so intentionally but you have no problem with questioning their honesty.

The tone of your letter would be annoying to me if I did not realize I had encroached on your property; if it turns out I hadn't and you had misread the survey I'd be quite angry. Why take such an aggressive approach, especially without taking the trouble to be sure your opinion is correct?

I had earlier asked if your cable or phone box was shown on the survey to be precisely on the property line but I have not seen a reply.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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The permanent survey pins on the ground prove where the property line is. If the pins are not present, a licensed surveyor needs re-establish where they are. It is usually cheaper to have the surveyor who did the survey that produced the plat re-establish the survey pins. And at that time his crew can stake out a proposed fence line on the boundary for a nominal additional fee.

A lay person can make erroneous assumptions based solely on a tape measurements & a plat map, especially if line of sight between the two existing property corner survey pin markers is obscured by trees or terrain.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee Area of WI
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Nicely written letter. But remember, a plat is not a survey so you might get some pushback if the neighbors have had a survey done and it came out differently. But your plat may indeed show identical boundaries to a new survey so hopefully they will not contest it.

" Plats ensure property owners donít trespass on anotherís property, land for public use remains public, lots comply with zoning rules and restrictions, and all property owners have access to utilities.
Be Sure of Your Boundaries
Before you do anything, make sure you know where the boundaries of your property are. You are about to ask your neighbor to move his boundary structure and you don't want to cause resentment over mistaken property lines. In most cases, you'll have received a plat map when you bought your home showing the measured boundary."

I think it will be fine.......
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