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Old 04-20-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Where I live, flippers are buying up modest little cottages from the 40's and 50's and tearing out interior walls to make it "open concept" so you have a row of cabinets running along one wall of your living room in place of what was probably a cozy eat-in kitchen. Ugh. Is that really what everyone wants now?

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Unfortunately, a lot of new home buyers think they're "supposed" to want these homes because they watch HGTV and those are the flips that are shown there. I would never open up the kitchen into the dining room in my bungalow; the dining room is already the largest room in the house and has the right size just as it is. Also, it would be totally architecturally inappropriate to do so in a 1927 house, because it wasn't designed that way. and it functions quite well as it was originally laid out.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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HORRIBLE flip I had to actively talk my first-time homebuyers out of. When the upper kitchen cabinets were opened, they scraped the ceiling. The granite was poor quality -- rough along the "finished" edges. Kitchen island rocked when you pushed down gently on one end. Floor was the cheapest possible wood laminate that had a distinct "ripple" in the living room. And the doorknobs were a horror. You know how the hole is drilled into a door and the doorknob set is installed? The doorknobs on EVERY SINGLE DOOR were misaligned, and did not cover the hole in the door -- even the front and back doors!! There was a 1/4" gap that daylight and bugs were free to enter. We found a notice on the circuit breaker box that it did not meet code, the water heater was not raised, per code in this area, and the garage doors were older and cracks had been filled in with wood putty and painted badly, so there were lumps on the garage door. Bathroom shower and floor time were badly mismatched -- one was a tan, the other was a grey, and the sink was white.

Another one was a $600,000 house that had been purchased for $400,000. They tore out carpet and put in cheap wood floors (the kind that can't take any scratching whatsoever), painted the entire interior a strange blue/grey, then slapped it back on the market for 50% more than they paid for it. They didn't do anything to modernize the 25 year old kitchen and baths, and ignored the rotted retaining wall that is going to cost $30-50,000 to repair. Dumb.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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Unfortunately, a lot of new home buyers think they're "supposed" to want these homes because they watch HGTV and those are the flips that are shown there. I would never open up the kitchen into the dining room in my bungalow; the dining room is already the largest room in the house and has the right size just as it is. Also, it would be totally architecturally inappropriate to do so in a 1927 house, because it wasn't designed that way. and it functions quite well as it was originally laid out.
I agree 100%.

I would love to understand the relationship between industry, HGTV, and decorating trends. Is someone paying HGTV to promote trends? For example, HGTV promotes SS appliances and gets advertising from the appliance industry. Makes sense. They also promote granite countertops, but you don't see advertising from granite companies because granite companies aren't national companies with name recognition. Does that mean the granite lobby is making direct payments to HGTV? Or did HGTV decide on its own to promote granite over all the other perfectly good stone countertops, such as Silestone? If so, why?

Ditto for open concept. That is now a feature of every single episode -- even HH International, where globetrotting househunters whine about the lack of open concept in Hanoi studio apartments and Italian villas. What's driving this trend? Is there a home improvement/contractor's lobby that is paying HGTV to run programming that makes people want to tear out walls?

I predict that in ten years, HGTV will show homebuyers going into houses and saying "Ewww, open concept. We're going to have to put in some walls!"
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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What's driving this trend? Is there a home improvement/contractor's lobby that is paying HGTV to run programming that makes people want to tear out walls?

I predict that in ten years, HGTV will show homebuyers going into houses and saying "Ewww, open concept. We're going to have to put in some walls!"
8' ceilings and rooms that could be closed off with doors, etc. were considered to be "energy efficient" in the 70's or so, because fuel was so expensive during the gas crisis. To be able to close off unused rooms and not have to heat them was considered to be an advantage.
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Old 04-22-2018, 12:02 AM
 
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8' ceilings and rooms that could be closed off with doors, etc. were considered to be "energy efficient" in the 70's or so, because fuel was so expensive during the gas crisis. To be able to close off unused rooms and not have to heat them was considered to be an advantage.
Builders also didnít have spray foam insulation or understand how proper ventilation worked. Hell, you had bathrooms and kitchens that vented to attics at that time, no ridge venting... list goes on.

Better living through modern chemistry/engineering.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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Went to a flip where they put new carpet in the bathrooms. Wtf!
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Old 04-22-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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I agree 100%.

I would love to understand the relationship between industry, HGTV, and decorating trends. Is someone paying HGTV to promote trends?
I'm a dedicated House Porn viewer too, and have often wondered what drives these trends, even about very low price point items. It's as though all of the "designers" go to some convention and decide that the hot styles for this year will be chalkboard paint (totally dumb idea IMO -- nobody even uses real blackboards anymore), barn doors between the bedroom and bathroom (gotta have a lot of wall acreage to allow those things to slide, though) and a SHIPLAP feature wall. Duh. IMO, the house is to LIVE IN and serve my needs.
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