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Old 05-29-2018, 06:14 AM
 
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I may be wrong, but I don't think it's that easy to kick mobile home residents out of their trailers and sell the land beneath them. Surely there has to be some government protection. The residents can't move their trailers into another trailer park if the structures are older (I believe it's 2 years, not 10). The residents are basically kicked out of their homes, into the streets and made homeless?
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Old 05-29-2018, 06:27 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I may be wrong, but I don't think it's that easy to kick mobile home residents out of their trailers and sell the land beneath them. Surely there has to be some government protection. The residents can't move their trailers into another trailer park if the structures are older (I believe it's 2 years, not 10). The residents are basically kicked out of their homes, into the streets and made homeless?
Not really. The lease for the lot would be the same as any lease with an end date.

I think some of you are either incorrect or rules for moving mobile homes are state specific. I looked and the answers are all over the map so I didn't link any.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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Not really. The lease for the lot would be the same as any lease with an end date.

I think some of you are either incorrect or rules for moving mobile homes are state specific. I looked and the answers are all over the map so I didn't link any.
No park is going to take a 40 year old MH which is all these people have to live in. Most will only take ones that are 10 years old which is almost brand new in MH terms and unless they paid cash they still owe a lot on it.

Plus if you try to move it chances are it will fall apart plus cost thousands to move even if you could find a place for it.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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Generally, aging trailer parks are on valuable land. The community grew up around them until the land becomes more valuable than the space rent brings in.

Trailer park are regularly sold to real estate developers who have far more interest in shopping malls, business centers, and high end condos than in affordable housing.

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Old 05-29-2018, 07:21 AM
 
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I've seen little 200 sqft cabins in new england turned into condos. They used to be motels. They would sell for about $150k in a town where a typical condo sells for $350k.

One difference between a microhome and a mobile home is mortgages. A microhome is typically considered an RV, basically a car. While a mobile home can have a mobile home mortgage. Although still not a home mortgage, its close.

So even if you did make a microhome park, affordability would be an issue.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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I've read where odd bits of underused urban land has been converted to tiny home communities but in general, it makes more financial sense to buy less expensive land farther out for micro home developments.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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I may be wrong, but I don't think it's that easy to kick mobile home residents out of their trailers and sell the land beneath them. Surely there has to be some government protection. The residents can't move their trailers into another trailer park if the structures are older (I believe it's 2 years, not 10). The residents are basically kicked out of their homes, into the streets and made homeless?
It's easier than you would think. it's not your land and you have a lease, unless you get the mayor or some other group to help you, you are on your own. These people can't afford to fight this. Also the one in Hollywood Florida was Seminole Indian tribe land I think they only paid people $1.500 to leave. These are sovereign nations so they don't have to follow American laws. They said they wanted it for Native American families for housing, but they pay each tribe member $!0K a month from the casino profits, they can live in a McMansion for that. Plus Google satellite views show this many years later. Still empty lots, you can only see the impression of where the homes used to be.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:26 AM
 
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I've seen little 200 sqft cabins in new england turned into condos. They used to be motels. They would sell for about $150k in a town where a typical condo sells for $350k.

One difference between a microhome and a mobile home is mortgages. A microhome is typically considered an RV, basically a car. While a mobile home can have a mobile home mortgage. Although still not a home mortgage, its close.

So even if you did make a microhome park, affordability would be an issue.
A tiny home is only an RB if it's on a frame that had an axle, even if the wheels are off. If it's set in place like a home it's not an RV. Even mobile homes on their own land are real property, if they are on rented lots you have to register them like a vehicle. even huge doublewide manufactured homes.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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You're better off buying cheap land with city water and sewer and starting a new community yourself.

No one is going to put a new tiny house that will prolly cost $50K once in place next to an old trailer worth zero. Plus you'd be an idiot to spend $50K on a tiny home and rent a lot, better to find a lot somewhere that allows it where you can buy the land. In my area there are lots that cost less than $10K some that previously had houses have water ready to connect too, you just need septic and the house and connection to electric. Might as well just buy a single wide or a small modular home. I don't know if they have a size limit here but there are a lot of old stick built homes about 600 sq ft.

Might even be better to buy a large plot of land and sell the lots as co-ops to tiny home people.

I think a few trailer parks have been closed in Broward and Miami Dade. One was by the Hollywood Casino the smaller one next to the Hard Rock, the other one was in Dade county and those poor, poor people lost everything and had to move away and I guess leave their old trailers and find a new home, I think they got $8K each later on in a settlement, I guess you just can't kick people out.El Portal Residents Will Get Paid $360K To Move Out Of Trailer Park | WLRN

Seminole Tribe Evicting Nearly 1,500 Elderly From Mobile Homes CBS Miami Seminole only gave people $3k to leave and it was 55+
I agree w everything you said.
I think many have a huge dislike for trailers and illogically choose a tiny home because it is the new IN thing to do. Obviously for 50k they can get a beautiful mobile home. They do not think it is hip. The tiny home concept is such a con, price wise.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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This is a real issue. The run down trailer park is essentially the end of the road for some of the residents. The fact their trailer (if they own it) cannot be moved due to age/condition basically makes them homeless if evicted.

I can't see where the landowner is seeking to improve their land should be stopped because the renters suddenly have eternal leases because they are too poor to move? That is backwards reasoning. 2 major parks got closed recently (one waterfront, land sold for 15 million and the other sold for 30 million/became high end apartments). Both had to pay residents to leave. The waterfront guy even offered residents free rent (6 months or so) with the agreement they would leave by a certain date. People took the deal and still squatted on the land! In the end the trailer people all vacated and both pieces of property were scraped clean.

The reality is a lot of these people live where they live because they can't afford the going rents and don't have the resources to buy a home. There was a huge trailer park in Tucson where the land was sold off. It was actually a little nicer than a majority of the parks in town and some older bigger trailers would sell for $10k or more. Which is a lot for Tucson. The place had a huge amount of orange trees and was very lush. $10K is not a lot of money but if you are a retired person and sunk most of your savings into buying one of these units and now you have to abandon it and move somewhere else that can be devastating. They certainly do not have $10K to buy another one somewhere else.

I think the sellers should have to pay relocation costs and the cost to purchase a similar used trailer. Then everyone wins. There will always be a few difficult ones who want to stay no matter what but that is too bad.
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