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Old 06-11-2018, 02:32 AM
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From the NJ building code

"A room used for sleeping purposes under the provisions of N.J.A.C. 5:28-1.11(d) shall be provided with a
safe and unobstructed means of egress leading directly to an outside area accessible to a street. "

When looking at 2br condos on multi-floor buildings, I notice that alot of them do not have fire escapes, they also only have one door to the outside of the condo. If this is the case it would seem that if this were the case(no second room with doors that lead outside of the condo and no window that has a fire escape(which the window isn't an egress either, because how can a 4th floor window be considered safe egress) that none of these places have two rooms that are considered bedrooms. Some of the places that have this configuration are listed as 2br on the building description on the property tax website, so not like it's just some realtor embellishing trying to make a sale
What am I missing here? Is a room without direct access to the outside considered a non-bedroom? I was under the imipression that in order for a window to be considered an egress window on an upper floor(say third or fourth) it had to have a fire-escape? Is that not true?

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Old 06-11-2018, 06:37 AM
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The rules of egress are that a room has to have a window of certain dimensions where a person can get out of if there is a fire. the access to an outside room means you can't have a bedroom that only opens into another bedroom and not an open hallway or living area. Fire escapes are not necessary. if you are on the second floor or third floor you can buy an escape ladder for fires. More than one entrance into an apartment is not required.

If a room did not have a window you could not open it to get fresh air while the fire department came to help rescue you.

any floor window can be an egress window. Egress does not mean it guarantees safe passage to the ground, it means it can open to the outside and is wide and tall enough for a person to fit thru.


If you are concerned buy a condo with sprinklers.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:08 PM
Location: North Idaho
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Nobody gets a fire escape in a two story building. Swing out the window, hang by your hands, and drop. Buildings that do have fire escapes, they don't go below the second floor

Or, you can buy yourself one of those emergency chain escape ladders that hook over the window sill and keep that near the window.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:50 AM
Location: Raleigh NC
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I think I'd ask my Realtor. And contact the building code department. It's also entirely possible the building were grandfathered in before the rule went into effect.
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