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Old 02-15-2019, 04:19 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Please read my post again. I did not ask for advice about growing food, raising chickens or homesteading. I asked for names of land sale websites. That is all. So, no I do not think my question is too broad - people either know the names of some land sale websites or they do not. It is annoying that most people are answering a question that I did not ask, so in the future I will not add any unnecessary details. Lesson learned.
You asked, what's the minimum amount of land that you'd need. We were asking questions to try to help you figure that out. That's why I suggested homesteading sites, they could give you a better answer.

I'd think you should be able to find land on realtor.com but then again maybe there is a home steading site to buy land.


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Greetings! I would like to buy some land to start my own small homestead, but I have no idea about how to buy land or even how much land I would need to buy. My desire is to own enough land to grow my own organic fruits and vegetables, keep a few chickens, and (eventually) build a home and workshop for my creative/craft businesses. Being in a rural area is not a problem. I just need to be within easy distance of a city with great healthcare facilities and have access to high-speed internet (cable or fiber optic).

What's the minimum amount of land I need to do this? And, can anybody point me to some land purchase websites? Thanks!

CN
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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I am deeply deeply sorry that you got answers to the question you asked.


In the future, it would be easier if you would post your APLC (Astral Plane Location Coordinates) so we can easily read your mind and determine which of the questions you ask, you want answered, and which of the questions you ask, you will be deeply offended if we attempt to answer.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Depends on your intent. When people lived off the land, the rule of thumb was generally 40 acres to support a family. Another 40 if you wanted some income or surplus to trade.

If you just want to supplement your diet with some fresh produce eggs etc. you can do it with one acre for one person. three to five for a family. When I was a kid we had three acres. 1 acre was a garden. 1/2 acre was the horse pasture. the rest of the land was once an apple orchard, so we had about 20 apple trees. We tied the horses to the trees during the daytime to graze (and help mow). Each of the kids also had our own little garden (as much space as we were willing to clear and take care of) to raise produce to eat or sell. Just a small patch, but it worked. i grew watermelons one year and did very well. However I grew squash one year and had so many I had to give them away. Our family obtained most of the produce we ate from the family garden that was about an acre. It was constant work for all of us. We had to do something every single day (till, weed, fertilize (horse manure), plant, weed, weed, weed, weed, spray with chemicals, thin, water, harvest, prepare (snap beans etc), can or freeze, store). It was constant work for six people. We grew corn, squash, strawberries, broccoli, kohlrabi, beans and more beans, cabbage (lettuce did out), carrots, potatoes, peanuts (another failure), beets, Brussels sprouts, rhubarb, asparagus, celery, probably some other things. There was a pond/swamp in the front yard and the garden ran down into the swamp because some things we grew required swampy conditions, plus we could draw water from the swamp for watering. We also grew some herbs and marigolds all over the garden barbecue they kept bugs away (plus the herbs were good for salads and cooking). If we had cows instead of horses, we would have had even more food (milk and meat).

We did not have chickens when I was a kid, but my now family has had them. They are easy and require little space assuming you let them free range during the day (which means you will lose some of them from time to time). You will want a lot, probably 15 to 20. They die a lot. You do not need many to supply eggs though. If 4-5 hens survive, you will have plenty of eggs. You only need big numbers if you are going to eat them.

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Old 02-15-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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Well, we're not supposed to discuss this because the OP doesn't want us to, but I'm going to anyway, darn it!

To me what the OP describes (a few acres to have a big garden and some chickens, maybe a detached workshop or barn) is not "homesteading", it's "semi-rural living". All over the United States you can find people doing exactly that, on the periphery of every small city or small town.

To me "homesteading" means that you are truly doing your best to live off the land you have. That's a whole different ball of wax.

Given the area of 48 states (I'm going to assume Alaska and Hawaii are not in the mix) that would be suitable for the kind of "semi-rural living" the OP describes, I think "finding some rural land sale websites" should be about step 5000, and things like "define what I actually want to do" and "define where I want to do it" should be steps 1 or 2 or 3.

I will say that semi-rural living, easy access to a city with "great health care facilities", and loads of high speed internet, do not seem like a package that would be particularly easy to fulfill.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:24 AM
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Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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Greetings! I would like to buy some land to start my own small homestead, but I have no idea about how to buy land or even how much land I would need to buy.
1. Decide roughly where you want to live and then find a real estate agent who specializes in rural real estate. It requires a specialist. (I knew nothing about this until I became the webmaster for 2 of these firms.)

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Old 02-15-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Hre are a few facts related to northern Nw England:

International Paper says you can harvest 1/3 of a cord of wood per acre per year from wooded land forever without diminishing the resource. Take the wood that died naturally first.That way it's ready to burn immediately.

Make sure you choose seeds suitable for your climate.

Your turkeys will breed with wild turkeys. Turkeys are notoriously promiscuous.

When choosing a town, be very careful. Some towns have oppressive regulations that could prevent you from living your dream. Other towns have a lot of freedom. Want to build a straw bale house or live in a used freight container? Sometimes you can. I know an owner who is on his third wood stove for his container home. The first one was way too big. The second one was still too big and his small stove now is entirely adequate. The most efficient container is an "insulated reefer". They are insulated top, bottom and all four sides. You can just about heat the thing with a candle.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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Greetings! I would like to buy some land to start my own small homestead, but I have no idea about how to buy land or even how much land I would need to buy. My desire is to own enough land to grow my own organic fruits and vegetables, keep a few chickens, and (eventually) build a home and workshop for my creative/craft businesses. Being in a rural area is not a problem. I just need to be within easy distance of a city with great healthcare facilities and have access to high-speed internet (cable or fiber optic).

What's the minimum amount of land I need to do this? And, can anybody point me to some land purchase websites? Thanks!

CN
Apologies for being blunt.
My observation: if you need assistance from other people now in helping you to find “ the best sites” selling the land you “have no idea how to buy” or “even how much land” you “ would need to buy” then I would change your game plan for the nearest future.
You are not ready for the lifestyle you are thinking of leading.
“ ... easy distance of a city with great healthcare facilities and have access to high speed internet (cable or optic)“ IS NOT RURAL.

If, on the other hand, you have unlimited resources ( money, lawyers, accountants, timber companies, hired help, architects, builders, well drillers, electricians, plumbers, gardeners, etc) then I guess it is doable, so you can “ do something creative” in your spare time after you finished managing all the people and companies involved in your dream project.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:29 AM
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Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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Here are a few facts related to northern Nw England:
International Paper says you can harvest 1/3 of a cord of wood per acre per year from wooded land forever without diminishing the resource.
My brother, the forestry company owner for 30+ years, says: In VT and NH: 1 cord per year.
He got paid by landowners to do this.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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Apologies for being blunt.
My observation: if you need assistance from other people now in helping you to find “ the best sites” selling the land you “have no idea how to buy” or “even how much land” you “ would need to buy” then I would change your game plan for the nearest future.
You are not ready for the lifestyle you are thinking of leading.
“ ... easy distance of a city with great healthcare facilities and have access to high speed internet (cable or optic)“ IS NOT RURAL.

If, on the other hand, you have unlimited resources ( money, lawyers, accountants, timber companies, hired help, architects, builders, well drillers, electricians, plumbers, gardeners, etc) then I guess it is doable, so you can “ do something creative” in your spare time after you finished managing all the people and companies involved in your dream project.
I think OP should read "coldjensens" post above for a realistic description of what her small scale idea would actually turn out to be in reality.


I'm not sure that I see a lot of room there for the creative crafty stuff, unless one were to forgo sleep, or pay everyone above market rate to do things like weeding, watering, fertilizing, tilling, weeding, repairing fences, weeding, figuring out how the heck to keep the deer from eating everything, weeding, figuring out how to keep chipmunks, raccoons, squirrels, rats, mice, etc., from eating everything that the deer have left, weeding, etc. Oh yes, someone mentioned that chickens are likely to enthusiastically die in droves till you master the art of keeping them: I'm going to bet that everything else you plant or bring home (flora and fauna) will also vie to be the first to die, so you can expect to do a lot of things three or four times before you figure out how to keep some of it alive long enough to get something back.


I am not a rural person, but all of my family came from the farm. There's a reason why most farmers who make it work have been doing it all their lives and learned much of what they know from the generations before. It ain't easy, either in terms of the pure physical work and time required, or in terms of the amount of intelligence, knowledge, and risk-taking involved.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Greetings! I would like to buy some land to start my own small homestead, but I have no idea about how to buy land or even how much land I would need to buy. My desire is to own enough land to grow my own organic fruits and vegetables, keep a few chickens, and (eventually) build a home and workshop for my creative/craft businesses. Being in a rural area is not a problem. I just need to be within easy distance of a city with great healthcare facilities and have access to high-speed internet (cable or fiber optic).

What's the minimum amount of land I need to do this? And, can anybody point me to some land purchase websites? Thanks!

CN



You may find this site helpful with real estate thread and general discussions: https://www.homesteadingtoday.com/


In regards how much land, it depends on your intentions. I "homesteaded" growing tomatoes, potatoes peppers, carrots, radishes, lettuce, strawberries, raspberries, pears, apples and kept 20 chickens & 2 horses (grandfathered zoning in a neighborhood just outside Chicago) on a lot 100ft x 300 ft.-- six miles to Midway Airport, 9 miles to Sox Park, 12 miles to the Mile Square Medical Center (home to 4 medical schools) 15 miles to Orchestra Hall and all The Museums.... RE Taxes- $500/month.....Now I'm in WI on 40 ac-- RE taxes $150/m.
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