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Old 09-01-2008, 11:39 PM
 
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I'm not sure if this has been talked about yet or not, but here it goes.

What is the minimum requirements to list a room as a bedroom on MLS? I have two examples:

- A master bedroom with no door or walls. Can this be considered a bedroom? It is open to the rest of the house.

- An area of the garage that has been finished but does not have a closet (area exists with no doors) or window for egress. Access is down OUTSIDE STAIRCASE and must walk across unfinished garage floor to access "bedroom". No plumbing exists on this level. Is this really a "bedroom" or a finished area of garage?

I'd appreciate your comments!
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:42 PM
 
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In every state we've bought or sold in, a bedroom has to have a closet.

Where are you? Are you buying or selling?


Never mind, I just saw your other post. It might be helpful to link it so folks can get a better picture of the situation.

I don't know what the threshold is to determine fraud but it certainly seems misleading to me.
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:47 PM
 
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In every state we've bought or sold in, a bedroom has to have a closet.

Where are you? Are you buying or selling?
Buying in Washington State. Closet exists in both bedrooms, but no closet doors are present in lower level bedroom.
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Old 09-02-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Bedrooms do not have to have closets to be considered a bedroom. Go check out homes built in the early 1900's and before. They didn't have closets, they had Armoires for their few clothes.

However, most jurisdictions do require 2 pointes of egress for a room to be identified as a sleeping (bedroom) room. Due to Fire Regulations!!

Shelly
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Southwest Pa
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The first you describe could be considered a bedroom depending on the overall style of the house. An open floor plan would be where I'd expect to see such a thing. The second I wouldn't consider a bedroom. Depending on the area, I might say it could be such a room but wouldn't count it as such.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:46 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport Maine
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Our house, up here in Downeast Maine was built in 1879 - It has one closet in the upstairs hallway and no closets in the bedrooms, no coat closet.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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Our house, up here in Downeast Maine was built in 1879 - It has one closet in the upstairs hallway and no closets in the bedrooms, no coat closet.
That's a unique case. Houses built pre-1900 often don't have closets in bedrooms, but I think they still can be considered bedrooms. The subject house was built in 2003.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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Bedrooms do not have to have closets to be considered a bedroom. Go check out homes built in the early 1900's and before. They didn't have closets, they had Armoires for their few clothes.

However, most jurisdictions do require 2 pointes of egress for a room to be identified as a sleeping (bedroom) room. Due to Fire Regulations!!

Shelly
Hey Shelly,

We are in Richmond and we have always been told that to be considered a bedroom it must have a closet!

When we lived on Monument none of our bedrooms had closets, as you mentioned, but it was still able to be marketed as a bedroom. Is it also true that closets were not built because a household was taxed by the amount of rooms in a house and a closet was considered a room??

I don't know how you RA keep up with all of this
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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In Oregon legally a bedroom has to have a closet and an escapable window. In lofts and converted warehouses this would not be true, and many older homes would not qualify since they often did not have closets. So we look more at function.

So yes, in the first scenario, it is possible to have a master with no walls/doors, and no I would not consider the second one a bedroom since it is not functionally one. I would have called it an office/den/bonus, etc or something.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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MLS rules are local.


In my area, a bedroom does not have to have a closet or a window.
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