You have a right to form organizations or communities that provide such services. You would however deny me that right to live freely by levying taxes via force and coercive means in an act of aggression which is fundamentally oppressive. In a voluntary free society there would be no property taxes. Private property ownership is one of the most important aspects of a free society. We do not have real property ownership if I am renting from the government through property taxes thus you do not believe in a free voluntary society.
Since the point of my post was about finding property and land in the country where there are no public services and I can roll my own or buy privately I will respond to your services list accordingly.
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jpicard: Schools - I can pay for private school or home school. My kids are grown and thus no reason I should have to pay my entire life time for your kids.
middle-aged-mom: Most children attend public schools.
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Just because "most children" attend public schools does not mean I should be denied the ability to
home school or send my child to a private school. In a free society I should have the right to do so rather than be forced to pay for something I do not use.
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Parks - They can be privatized and stay open by charging a fee for usage.
I see. Parks and recreation facilities are for the wealthy.
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You can also not charge. Through advertising sponsorship or volunteerism the parks could be maintained. We do this already in many areas such as the "adopt a highway" programs.
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Libraries - can be privated and since we have the internet and are basically obsolete anyway. Can also be funded through contributions and fees.
I see. Library resources can be limited to those who can afford to pay.
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If you are concerned a segment of the population cannot afford to go to the Library than you can donate directly or form an organization that raises funds for the under privileged use of Libraries. Forcing under privileged home owners to go without heat and food to pay their property tax bill since you want to have a beautiful library is down right evil.
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Hospitals - I already pay for this through insurance and fees
Hardly.
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I already pay for health insurance and when I go to the hospital for an overnight I still pay several thousand out of pocket. In your world in addition to this you think property taxes should also be used to support the hospitals. Wow.
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Police - can be privatized and already generates revenue from fines-crime.
I see. Only those who can afford protection will receive protection.
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You can say the same about those that cannot afford property taxes. Since I am living in the country I can defend myself and form a volunteer group within my community.
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Fire fighters - volunteer already in my community.
Not true in most areas. I guess if someone cannot afford to pay, their place or business can burn.
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This goes back the same as the school response. Just because "most areas" do not do so does not mean I should be denied and have your beliefs forced upon my community. I live in a major suburb of NYC where all our fire departments in the county are volunteer. Big business has been instrumental in paying for fire equipment and trucks.
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Emergency Responders - volunteer already in my community and users are already charged a fee upon usage.
Not true in most areas.
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Again, just because some areas are not volunteer does not mean my community should be denied that privatized option.
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Water - I can drill a well however already pay a private company for water. Not true in metropolitan areas, so I guess the majority are out of luck, eh.
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Most areas you already pay a private company for water and this service is not paid with property taxes.
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Sewer - I can install a a septic or able to pay a private company for sewer. Not true in metropolitan areas so I guess the majority are out of luck and can toss raw sewerage out their window.
Most people in the U.S. live in or near large metropolitan areas and the source of their income and thus, the lifestyle you propose is not practical.
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Like I said this is already being done in some metropolitian areas. The purpose of my post was rural areas so this comment is irrelevant to the discussion anyway.
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Property tax, in some form or another is as old as civilization.Good ole Abe Lincoln was a property tax attorney are sued . Property taxes, in some form or another, have been around since the begining of civilization. Oliver Wendell Holmes said “Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society.”
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Acts of aggression are as old as civilization which does not make it right. Since I grew out of my public school indoctrination I was able to see Abe Lincoln for what he was. Lincoln was a tyrant who launched an unjust war that resulted in the deaths of 620,000 people, he suspended haebus corpus and nearly bankrupted the country. He did more than any other President to increase the size of government and destroy the Constitution. 620,000 people dead when he could have simply done what other civilized countries had done at the time and paid off the slave owners without firing a single shot.
If Hitler was a victor I am sure you would be singing his praises to today. Just like the Chairman Mao who killed far more than Hitler and the Chinese still sing his praises.
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Sounds like it's all about you and not the greater good.
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In a free society I have a right to contribute or not contribute to the greater good how I see fit without being forced to do so through acts of aggression.