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Old 01-03-2015, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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I don't understand why people always say that. Radon rises . . . so after it leaves your basement where do you think it goes next?

A mitigation system around here runs about $900. For that amount of money, if my house tested high I would just install it. I'm not going to risk my life to save $900.
Radon is about 8 times denser than air. It collects in low places. Staying out of the basement is a good way to lessen exposure.

As for radon being a scam, I think that idea stems from people not understanding how disease studies really work and thus are not able to decide for themselves based on the existing evidence.
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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Radon is about 8 times denser than air. It collects in low places. Staying out of the basement is a good way to lessen exposure.

As for radon being a scam, I think that idea stems from people not understanding how disease studies really work and thus are not able to decide for themselves based on the existing evidence.
I guess I stand corrected. I'm now wondering why if radon does not rise why radon mitigation systems terminate above the roof of the house. If it sinks, why not just have the pipe pop out of the side of the house?
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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I guess I stand corrected. I'm now wondering why if radon does not rise why radon mitigation systems terminate above the roof of the house. If it sinks, why not just have the pipe pop out of the side of the house?
I just saw one the other day where it popped out of the side of a house...at the basement level. Basement was a walkout. I didn't get to go down there though. Took so long looking at the first floor, I had to leave before seeing the lower level. Hope to go back.
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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I guess I stand corrected. I'm now wondering why if radon does not rise why radon mitigation systems terminate above the roof of the house. If it sinks, why not just have the pipe pop out of the side of the house?
I've seen both, but most vent at the roof. What type of system depends on where is the best place to vent it. You don't want to vent the radon system where people sit on a deck/patio, for instance. Venting it to the roof takes away the issue of venting it into someone's face/near a window where it can just seep in, etc.
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Old 01-03-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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I just saw one the other day where it popped out of the side of a house...at the basement level. Basement was a walkout. I didn't get to go down there though. Took so long looking at the first floor, I had to leave before seeing the lower level. Hope to go back.
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I've seen both, but most vent at the roof. What type of system depends on where is the best place to vent it. You don't want to vent the radon system where people sit on a deck/patio, for instance. Venting it to the roof takes away the issue of venting it into someone's face/near a window where it can just seep in, etc.
So you've both seen radon mitigation systems where the pipe pops out of the side of the house and vents near ground level? All the mitigation systems I've seen (whether they pop out the side or run through the inside of the house) extend up to the roof line. What would be the point of putting so much height on the vent pipe if the gas is just going to sink back down?
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Old 01-03-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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So you've both seen radon mitigation systems where the pipe pops out of the side of the house and vents near ground level? All the mitigation systems I've seen (whether they pop out the side or run through the inside of the house) extend up to the roof line. What would be the point of putting so much height on the vent pipe if the gas is just going to sink back down?
This is a good explanation:

Radon Mitigation - SYSTEM DESIGN BASICS

And i think the general idea is that radon is only a danger when it collects in a closed environment. Once you get it outside atmospheric dilution is assumed to do the rest.
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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I guess I stand corrected. I'm now wondering why if radon does not rise why radon mitigation systems terminate above the roof of the house. If it sinks, why not just have the pipe pop out of the side of the house?
The one I saw actually had the egress or whatever from the basement wall to a large box on the wall and a wide pipe going up quite a height.
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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The large box on the wall was probably the mitigation fan.
By the way, radon half life is 3.8 days, not a few hours.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:37 AM
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Once the radon enters the atmosphere, it gets distributed on the breeze. How heavy the atoms are becomes less important, because the strength of the breeze is a much bigger factor than the weight of the atoms. Even in a room, it gets distributed all over, because all rooms have breezes. But the higher you go, the lower the concentration of radon, because the weight of the atoms is a factor, even if only a minor factor.

The formula for how likely radon is to cause cancer is probably extremely complicated, taking into account all the alpha radiation from inside your lungs, all the cancer cells started by that radiation, how the immune system responds to those cells, etc. Factors such as how dusty your basement is, and what kind of dust it is, probably complicate it a lot more.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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This is a good explanation:

Radon Mitigation - SYSTEM DESIGN BASICS

And i think the general idea is that radon is only a danger when it collects in a closed environment. Once you get it outside atmospheric dilution is assumed to do the rest.
Interesting page. Thanks for sharing. So while radon doesn't rise, it is pulled into the rest of the house. This makes me feel a bit better about my original statement.
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