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Old 12-01-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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Maybe car buyers should be encouraged to walk away from their car loans also?

Many bought new cars with little down and I'll bet a year later they owe more than what it's worth.

------" it is not a moral decision, it is a business decision"----

I may be old fashioned, but when I sign my name on a contract I consider it both a business and moral agreement.
Yes, it is OLD fashioned to be brainwashed into thinking an action with an immoral actor is in any way a moral situation.Foolish as well.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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Donald Trump is NOT my hero or role model.
And, I am middle class.

Weak people often DO use the actions of others to help them set their course in life, but that modelling does not rationalize bad behavior.
If you have an internal compass, you keep your heading.
Not if your heading is heading you unto the rocks.

Weak people are those who are so brainwashed and utterly devoid of the courage and intelligence necessary to deal with reality ,that they refuse face up to their delusions, both self and socially imposed.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:54 AM
 
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Yes, it is OLD fashioned to be brainwashed into thinking an action with an immoral actor is in any way a moral situation.Foolish as well.

----"an action with an immoral actor"--

I read the post
I read the link

I could not find the --"inmoral actor"--you are referring to .

( I did find an "immoral" professor,however )
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Weak people are those who are so brainwashed and utterly devoid of the courage and intelligence necessary to deal with reality ,that they refuse face up to their delusions, both self and socially imposed.
Ah, something we can agree on.

Though I will say that the people you think are weak & brainwashed and who I do, are at at opposite ends of the spectrum.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Donald Trump is NOT my hero or role model.
And, I am middle class.

Weak people often DO use the actions of others to help them set their course in life, but that modelling does not rationalize bad behavior.
If you have an internal compass, you keep your heading.
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Not if your heading is heading you unto the rocks.

Weak people are those who are so brainwashed and utterly devoid of the courage and intelligence necessary to deal with reality ,that they refuse face up to their delusions, both self and socially imposed.

So some CEO's got rich, and that means I can rationalize stealing everything in sight?
BS.
A diversion from the point that others terrible behavior is not a justification for my gratuitous terrible behavior.

I listened to Clark Howard yesterday and he had a young feller on who owned a condo in a complex that is bottoming out. Hopefully.
He has an $87000 loan balance and the ones that are selling are selling short in the $30,000's.
He wants to do the right thing, and honor his obligation.
Actually, his living expenses will not be less if he walks out on the condo.
It is impossible to not empathize. And it was easy to respect the kid, because he never once said he wanted to be a Donald Trump or Bernie Madoff.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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So some CEO's got rich, and that means I can rationalize stealing everything in sight?
BS.
A diversion from the point that others terrible behavior is not a justification for my gratuitous terrible behavior.

I listened to Clark Howard yesterday and he had a young feller on who owned a condo in a complex that is bottoming out. Hopefully.
He has an $87000 loan balance and the ones that are selling are selling short in the $30,000's.
He wants to do the right thing, and honor his obligation.
Actually, his living expenses will not be less if he walks out on the condo.
It is impossible to not empathize. And it was easy to respect the kid, because he never once said he wanted to be a Donald Trump or Bernie Madoff.
Well it is better to be a chump than a Madoff I must admit.

These are,.however, not the only two categories possible.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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Ah, something we can agree on.

Though I will say that the people you think are weak & brainwashed and who I do, are at at opposite ends of the spectrum.
It irrelevant WHAT we "think", reality is there for those who have the courage to look at it.
It appears you do not.
God Bless.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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It irrelevant WHAT we "think", reality is there for those who have the courage to look at it.
It appears you do not.
God Bless.
Don't you just love it when people are condescending and then throw God into the mix?
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:45 AM
 
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----"an action with an immoral actor"--

I read the post
I read the link

I could not find the --"inmoral actor"--you are referring to .

( I did find an "immoral" professor,however )
Since logic seems not to be a facility you were blessed with, doubtless you never shall.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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Don't you just love it when people are condescending and then throw God into the mix?
Yes, I agree it is a nice touch.
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