Why is it so hard for women to say "would you like to go on a date with me" ? (marriages, engagement)

[princesasabia]

I would ask a guy out if we had great chemistry and I knew for a fact that he liked me. Women are usually told that men like to chase women. So men should initiate everything first, because if the woman initiates everything first she wont know what the guy really thinks or feels about her. Women are supposed to sit back, look pretty and let the guy pull all the moves. So I have heard and read in dating books.

[onihC]

Originally Posted by princesasabia

I would ask a guy out if we had great chemistry and I knew for a fact that he liked me. Women are usually told that men like to chase women. So men should initiate everything first, because if the woman initiates everything first she wont know what the guy really thinks or feels about her. Women are supposed to sit back, look pretty and let the guy pull all the moves. So I have heard and read in dating books.

Isn't that nice for you to just sit back and enjoy the ride?

[HansProof]

Personally, I think the guys have the better deal. I'd rather do the asking than be asked.

Men are really the "choosers" and women, the "settlers." I can ask 3 billion women out. They may not all say yes but I move on...and on...and on. A guy has the potential to initiate an infinite amount of dates and actually hone in on "exactly" his type. The odds are vastly in a guys favor for not only finding a woman but a good woman. Even asking just 10 women a week, thats 520 a year! Even if you're batting 0.100, that's still 52 a year!

Guys and gals are opposite. Guys will settle for sex but they won't settle for marriage. Women, the opposite.

Women on the other hand, if they play the traditional role, must choose the best of the lot that approaches them. Average woman, lets say one honest strong come-on a month. Of those 12 a year, maybe one you take any kind of interest in? The rest are old men, pervy types, criminals, players, wack jobs, etc.

You always hear of women trying to fix their guys. If you have to fix someone, then you're "settling."

I'm hard pressed to think of any guy I know that settled into marriage. Women, off the charts.

When is the last time you heard, "He could do so much better than her?" It doesn't come up often.

[onihC]

Originally Posted by HansProof

Personally, I think the guys have the better deal. I'd rather do the asking than be asked.

Men are really the "choosers" and women, the "settlers."

Not so sure about that. First of all, a guy needs to have a job, transportation, a career, money, etc. to even consider approaching a girl. Women, in the other hand, don't need any of that. A guy that finds her attractive will still take her out. Men approach women and they get to choose. Sometimes even enjoy going out with different guys and later on take a pick.

Guys and gals are opposite. Guys will settle for sex but they won't settle for marriage. Women, the opposite

There are many risks men face when it comes to marriage. It makes sense why men pretty much have to be dragged to the altar. Getting married means less or no sex, less or no more hanging out with his buddies for a beer and football, no financial freedom, the risk of being left without a penny after a divorce (there's more than 50% chance that he will end up divorced), etc.

Women on the other hand, if they play the traditional role

Depends if we are talking of the whole package of being traditional or just being traditional in the things that suit her.

You always hear of women trying to fix their guys. If you have to fix someone, then you're "settling."

Which is a mistake. Why go out with someone to change them instead of meeting someone that is compatible with you? Maybe woman want to change their man while men wish their woman doesn't change.

[Makgyver]

As a man I'd actually prefer to ask a woman out rather than the woman asking me out.

[Redisca]

Okay, onihC, fine: you've convinced me. Don't date and don't get married. Please.

[onihC]

Originally Posted by Redisca

Okay, onihC, fine: Don't date and don't get married. Please.

Thank you for your recommendation. Even though the possibilities of meeting a woman who is all for equality is almost inexistent, its still fine to have her company evey in a while.

For you is fine to tell me that since you, as a woman, are not required to do any of the things I have mentioned. So, I'll do my thing and you keep enjoying the whole package relationships and your priviledges as a woman .

[Redisca]

Originally Posted by onihC

Thank you for your recommendation. Even though the possibilities of meeting a woman who is all for equality is almost inexistent, its still fine to have her company evey in a while.

Since you are all for equality as you define it, I guess you enjoy the company of a woman who hates men as much as you hate women. Still -- clearly, some people are meant to be alone.

Originally Posted by onihC

For you is fine to tell me that since you, as a woman, are not required to do any of the things I have mentioned. So, I'll do my thing and you keep enjoying the whole package relationships and your priviledges as a woman .

You are not "required" to do any of the things you've mentioned. Although I've seen first-hand how men attempt to use cars and thick wads of cash to compensate for lack of personality and ****-poor attitude -- without much success, however.

[JSizzle225]

LOL I will just never understand these threads. Men DEFINITELY got the better end of this deal. I'd rather be the hunter, than the Wildebeest.

Next thing you know, some guys are going to be mad they don't have PMS.

[OngletNYC]

Personally I won't do it. I have no problem stepping up to a guy just for fun, but to ask for a "real" date? No way.