Who Pays in an Early Relationship (attracted, European, accept, respect)
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Because I hedge who I am and my ideals on whether or not I am currently in a relationship, Nevertheless, I am out quite often with other people. And yes, I pay for myself even when they invite me out.
I have made my arguments here. All I am doing is rehashing them now.
If you feel entitled to remuneration for your company, then you are offering nothing more than an escort service. A man does not owe you anything simply because he asks you out. And that is all I will say on this subject.
Call me ol fashioned but I'll just bet you don't date a lot do you?
Call me ol fashioned but I'll just bet you don't date a lot do you?
You are old fashioned. And I would not want to date someone that so obviously did not like me enough to only need my company as opposed to monetary compensation.
Expecting a guy who's offered to take you to dinner (or to a movie or to the roller derby) to pay your way is not "being entitled to his money". I'm not a mooch. I always offer to cover my costs, and I have to say none of my dates have ever taken me up on it (at least not on the first date that he planned.) Like spinx said a few pages back, it's not about the money, it's the attitude of keeping score and the lack of generosity that would be the dealbreaker.
Nevertheless, I am out quite often with other people. And yes, I pay for myself even when they invite me out.
And when they invite you in -- as in, to their home -- do you pay for your share of the food and the drink? Do you pay for the labor of preparing that stuff? Do you give your hosts cash on top of the customary bottle of wine or dessert, or do you deduct the cost of your "gift" from your monetary contribution? When girlfriends entertain and feed you, do you examine the store receipts and pay them back for half? This is just another one of those examples: when men do things for women, it counts; when women do things for men, it doesn't.
Well Sierra, maybe you should repeat that a few times. And since you are not a "Western Woman" by birth I think you know more about it than the men spouting off in this forum. They seem to think in Europe that females always pay 50/50.
Of course not. I've said it before: even my male platonic friends back home don't let me pay for my share of coffee, lunches, or dinners; God forbid for theirs. It's incomprehensible to them. They're not sissies and losers and take pride in acting as gentlemen. In the Mediterranean countries men fight with other men over bills (who TO pay it; not who NOT to pay it).
I’ve never seen pettiness and stinginess as presented on this forum even in the US. It’s true that my dating experience here is pretty limited, but none of the men I’ve encountered were of that breed. Frankly, I think just wishful thinking is being voiced here. I don’t believe most who voice it behave this way in real life because deep down they know it’s not going to bring them any desired results. Unfortunately, that deceives women and doesn't reveal their true nature.
Of course not. I've said it before: even my male platonic friends back home don't let me pay for my share of coffee, lunches, or dinners; God forbid for theirs. It's incomprehensible to them. They're not sissies and losers and take pride in acting as gentlemen. In the Mediterranean countries men fight with other men over bills (who TO pay it; not who NOT to pay it)
I can see asian women seeing western girls as selfish money hungry spoiled all-deserving princess brats as much as you see men as sissies for not paying your dinners, wine, entertainment, etc. All you do is show up.
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I’ve never seen pettiness and stinginess as presented on this forum even in the US
Interesting how women see men as being stingy for not paying for their steak and wine, entertainment, gifts, etc. Yet, women are the ones who refuse to be equals, which would involve them using their money AS OFTEN as men regardless of being date #1 or #100.
I can see asian women seeing western girls as selfish money hungry spoiled all-deserving princess brats as much as you see men as sissies for not paying your dinners, wine, entertainment, etc. All you do is show up.
Well, we all know that if it weren't for western girls, humanity would have colonized Alpha Centauri by now.
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