Who Pays in an Early Relationship (movies, romantic, social, beautiful)

[BadJuju]

Originally Posted by onihC

I can see asian women seeing western girls as selfish money hungry spoiled all-deserving princess brats as much as you see men as sissies for not paying your dinners, wine, entertainment, etc. All you do is show up.

Interesting how women see men as being stingy for not paying for their steak and wine, entertainment, gifts, etc. Yet, women are the ones who refuse to be equals, which would involve them using their money AS OFTEN as men regardless of being date #1 or #100.

They are oblivious to the inconsistencies in their logic. They think they are princesses and have a large sense of entitlement.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by onihC

I can see asian women seeing western girls as selfish money hungry spoiled all-deserving princess brats as much as you see men as sissies for not paying your dinners, wine, entertainment, etc. All you do is show up.

Ask me how much I care how you see Asian women! Or all women for that matter!

You see, what I do works for me. If what you do works for you, more power to you!

[cqoica123]

Originally Posted by sophialee

Well Sierra, maybe you should repeat that a few times. And since you are not a "Western Woman" by birth I think you know more about it than the men spouting off in this forum. They seem to think in Europe that females always pay 50/50.

Just so you know some of these men might just be European, so they happen to know how things work over there.

[onihC]

Originally Posted by BadJuju

They are oblivious to the inconsistencies in their logic. They think they are princesses and have a large sense of entitlement.

Exactly. See, when I ask them why not support equality in dating, relationships, etc. They see me as a terrible monster. See, with equality BOTH GENDERS get to be in the receiving end and involves BOTH GENDERS contribute as much and as often. Yet, women find that terrible. Seems they simply want everything for themselves instead of sharing priviledges, entitlements, responsibilities, contributing, romancing, taking out on dates, etc.

[onihC]

Originally Posted by sierraAZ

Ask me how much I care how you see Asian women! Or all women for that matter!

You see, what I do works for me. If what you do works for you, more power to you!

Nobody cares how we all live, it is a forum, its a debate, that is why you say what you feel just like I do.

It works for you and western women to be in the receiving end and do nothing for it. You come here and say why you think its right, no problem. I come and do the same. And the world keeps spinning.

How about what I said about how women see men as being stingy for not paying for their steak and wine, entertainment, gifts, etc. Yet, women are the ones who refuse to be equals, which would involve them using their money AS OFTEN as men regardless of being date #1 or #100. If a man doesn't spend his paycheck on a woman, how stingy! But women don't dare themselves to open their wallet. Hypocrisy at is finest.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by onihC

And the world keeps spinning.

Sure. The only difference is with this attitude you are not going to get any, not me!

[sophialee]

Originally Posted by cqoica123

Just so you know some of these men might just be European, so they happen to know how things work over there.

Well several of the women in this thread ARE from Europe, so we don't have to guess, and they are saying things quite different from what you're saying. But I guess only the mens view matters to you.

[Little Mizz Pittsburgh]

For things like mini vacations and stuff like that. If he's bringing it up, then he should pay...just accept the fact, that he is probably going to want to have sex once you get there. Now it is up to you if you want to put yourself in that predicament or not.

[boodhabunny]

The longer this discussion goes on, the more I realize that it's not really about money or the myth of equality. The real crux of the issue here is the sexual power (whether real or perceived) that women have over men.

Mating happens on our terms, that is a simple fact of nature. It's obvious that some men here are very uncomfortable with that reality. Women do not respect men who are followers, and we are (generally) not sexually attracted to men who display a loser mentality (whining, playing the victim card, etc.).

It has very little to do with money and a lot to do with attitude.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by boodhabunny

Women do not respect men who are followers, and we are (generally) not sexually attracted to men who display a loser mentality (whining, playing the victim card, etc.).

It has very little to do with money and a lot to do with attitude.

Well said!