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and female sluts dont have a problem getting in a relationship either as long as her reputation is unknown.
Ding, ding -- we have a winner. A woman may have her cake and eat it too, as Avienne put it, but she better be planning on moving to a new town, with a new circle of friends when her wild days are over, because the only man she's going to be able to entice into marriage after having sex with the better part of a zip code will be a loser, sucker or both.
Gwynn, I am saddened that you haven't tried to re answer my question.
In the 21st century...where both partners make a conscious choice to have sex with each other on a first date...why should a man look down on a woman cuz of that?
That is kind of horrible...what is the thought process? "Wow, that chick just shagged a loser."
It's ok if it is just simple hyprocrisy.
Hi JSizzle225,
I have answered it in spades. We are, in part, just like animals. We sure act like it. If you think we are just learning machines, and don't have any instinct, prove it. Do you think men learn to be attracted to women? I mean, really?
Speaking of acting like animals, all I do is present arguments and facts, but all I get are animal insults. I am insulted with barks, snarls and hate because I believe something fits with the facts. Is this the higher level of being?
Is simple biological hypocrisy good enough for you? The price for not having the pain of childbirth is parental uncertainty. Have a look at men who find out their child is actually not their child. They are practically suicidal. Its genetic death. The genetic response is to ruthlessly punish males for being duped into raising another man's child. Its akin to rape.
I already asked you to explain why people smoke when its bad for them and then to reconcile this with humans beings being perfectly rational. Why are you asking me again?
Ding, ding -- we have a winner. A woman may have her cake and eat it too, as Avienne put it, but she better be planning on moving to a new town, with a new circle of friends when her wild days are over, because the only man she's going to be able to entice into marriage after having sex with the better part of a zip code will be a loser, sucker or both.
Hi WestCobb,
Close, a woman would be having the man's cake since he is the target of deception. Its an odometer roll back. She has her cake and eats his too.
Hey Gwynn...I'm going to give you the win on this one.
I really can't argue against you, I guess. Makes me kind of sad cuz I hoped people were more evolved and rational than this...but you win.
All I can do is feel blessed that I'm not that way, and that I'm "Vanilla," and quite frankly that I'm JSizz, and I'm awesome.
Hi JSizzle225,
I never said I was happy about it. Though, if anything, it probably helped me not hate women. I fully expect a good deal of hatred from women by taking this position. Though I grew up being quite used to hatred, and it does have a comfortable familiarity. Sometimes you are just made to be on that side of the tracks. I am all thumbs when receiving awards in admiration, especially in lieu of the truth.
If you are going to be in a successful relationship, I suggest you consider doing things from someone else. Is the right guy going to do nothing for you? That will grant you a match.
I have eaten free pizza before, but its never as good as what you pay for. I do lots of things for other people. I get a lot back too.
I would do things for someone I was in a relationship with. However, I will not have sex just to make someone else happy. I will have it when I decide the time is right. There are other ways to show you care about someone.
A woman who is willing to give it all away to me has very low self respect
For me this all just goes right back to the horrible double standard - men can go out and sleep with whoever they want, enjoy and explore their sexuality, while if a woman does it, she is a low down dirty 5lut and thought to have self esteem issues. For guys it's just "normal". It's very unfair. I have single female friends who go out and have flings. They are stable women with good jobs who just happen to like exploring their sexuality and like different men. I am sick of seeing them be judged by people like you.
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I would do things for someone I was in a relationship with. However, I will not have sex just to make someone else happy. I will have it when I decide the time is right. There are other ways to show you care about someone.
smel, maybe I misunderstood his point, but I thought he meant that waiting for the right person at the right time could be something that you are doing not only for yourself, but also for your future Mr. Right.
At least that's how I took his meaning. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, good for you for knowing yourself so well. There's an awful lot of pressure for women to be casual in their attitudes about sex. It's refreshing to see a young woman willing to wait for what she truly wants and deserves from a man.
smel, maybe I misunderstood his point, but I thought he meant that waiting for the right person at the right time could be something that you are doing not only for yourself, but also for your future Mr. Right.
At least that's how I took his meaning. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, good for you for knowing yourself so well. There's an awful lot of pressure for women to be casual in their attitudes about sex. It's refreshing to see a young woman willing to wait for what she truly wants and deserves from a man.
All the best to you!
Thank you. I learned to value myself from my late mother, and she was a true lady.
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