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View Poll Results: Do you think that Master/Slave relationships are ok?
Yes 42 47.73%
No 46 52.27%
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Utah
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I hope this doesn't become about race, has nothing to do with the thread, however, interestingly Korean women are a strong influence on their culture, not as submissive as one might think.

That is my fear.I don't want this thread to become anything that is prejudice laiden.Compared to those who disapprove of my lifestyle there are alot more racists out there and I hope that they don't show up here.

 
Old 07-15-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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That is my fear.I don't want this thread to become anything that is prejudice laiden.Compared to those who disapprove of my lifestyle there are alot more racists out there and I hope that they don't show up here.
Please, report them if they do.
Wont put up with any of that nonsense myself.
Just glad none of the usual misogynists on this site havent put a toe in this thread, I've been waiting for them.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Wherever I go...
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Anyone here read the Twilight books? Have daughters who read it? How about the Anita Blake Vampire Hunter books? The Sookie Stackhouse books? Seen the movies/TV shows? Angel? Interview with a Vampire?

These are hugely popular "mainstream" things. The whole "vampire thing" is a major money maker.

It's also kink. The seduction by the vampire, the dominance of his gaze, her surrender, the exquisite pain of the bite... sound familiar?

How about all those ridiculous romance novels... the "bodice rippers." Strong, independent woman is seduced by the powerful, dominant man... and those books are full of language revolving around surrender and submission, scenes where he is demonstrating his dominance.

We, as a society, lap these up. We're not watching/reading them because they've got a good story line... it's the same damn story line repeated a million times. They're popular because they create a fantasy people are attracted to.

It isn't a mental imbalance... it might be cultural conditioning. But yanno, most of how we live our lives is dictated by cultural conditioning. Our work ethic, the way we go to church, give back to our community, protect the innocent, serve our country... they're all forms of cultural conditioning.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Anyone here read the Twilight books? Have daughters who read it? How about the Anita Blake Vampire Hunter books? The Sookie Stackhouse books? Seen the movies/TV shows? Angel? Interview with a Vampire?

These are hugely popular "mainstream" things. The whole "vampire thing" is a major money maker.

It's also kink. The seduction by the vampire, the dominance of his gaze, her surrender, the exquisite pain of the bite... sound familiar?

How about all those ridiculous romance novels... the "bodice rippers." Strong, independent woman is seduced by the powerful, dominant man... and those books are full of language revolving around surrender and submission, scenes where he is demonstrating his dominance.

We, as a society, lap these up. We're not watching/reading them because they've got a good story line... it's the same damn story line repeated a million times. They're popular because they create a fantasy people are attracted to.

It isn't a mental imbalance... it might be cultural conditioning. But yanno, most of how we live our lives is dictated by cultural conditioning. Our work ethic, the way we go to church, give back to our community, protect the innocent, serve our country... they're all forms of cultural conditioning.
Really, really good post.
I think many of us are a bunch of voyeurs as far as cultural conditioning.
What we read about, and watch on TV and the movies, we fear and condemn in real life.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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As I said in the previous thread, I think people who engage in them are often victims of sexual abuse in childhood or adolescence.

Even if that isn't the case, I think people who engage in these kinds of relationships have some serious emotional imbalances.
Stockholm Syndrome.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Utah
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Really, really good post.
I think many of us are a bunch of voyeurs as far as cultural conditioning.
What we read about, and watch on TV and the movies, we fear and condemn in real life.
We are a bunch of voyeurs.This is why serial killers get so much press coverage.People are fascinated by the strange,mythical or unknown.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Utah
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Stockholm Syndrome.

I was never kidnapped or held hostage so you can safely rule that theory out.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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We are a bunch of voyeurs.This is why serial killers get so much press coverage.People are fascinated by the strange,mythical or unknown.
Indeed, you are soooooo correct on that.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Controversies about race on these forums tend to get ugly, then the thread gets locked, thats more what I was thinking.

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I think it comes up because in the US, most people automatically associate the words master and slave with the enslavement of blacks and the discrimination that still lingers today... and I've run into assumptions many times where people believe the BDSM has no black population, for example. Interestingly, one of the most respected people in our scene is an amazing woman named Viola Johnson. She is a black woman, a slave, and simply one of the most vibrant and incredible people you could ever wish to meet. I've known Vi for about 15 years... you know those rare people you meet who when they hug you, you feel like you've been enveloped in heaven itself? Yeah, Vi gives those kind of hugs. LOL

There's actually a rather good article from 2004 that might interest those curious about "race play" or racial undertones within the kink community. You can find it here.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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as long as we continue to ignore the flakes
Thats the key to posting here.
You have no idea.......
I have my own little troll on the Fashion & Beauty forum.
Thinking about putting a collar and leash on him.
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