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Of course the guy doesn't care because everyone's opinion will be directed towards the woman. "What a messy house SHE keeps." Doesn't matter that they're both out all day working. When it comes to how the house is kept, people will assume the worst about the woman.
Those aren't the kind of people I would have over or be friends with. I would think they were petty and should get a life. Unless the place is hoarder central, who cares.
I think "Feminist" is one of those and I say that as a man who has repeatedly declared himself an adamant Women's Libber and a vehement anti-Feminist.
I hate to break it to you, but "Women's Lib" is a kind of feminism. It's an outdated term for what's now called Second Wave Feminism--the equality-based feminism (as opposed to the legal feminism) of the 60s and 70s. It's just a different name for the same thing.
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I hate to break it to you, but "Women's Lib" is a kind of feminism. It's an outdated term for what's now called Second Wave Feminism--the equality-based feminism (as opposed to the legal feminism) of the 60s and 70s.
I hate to break it to YOU, but a blood-crazed lion driven mad with rabies and a housecat who enjoys yarn are also part of the same family. I just know which one I prefer.
The whole reason I'm PRO-Women's Lib is because (per your own differentiation) it's the equality-based feminism rather than the legal feminism.
Ha-ha, must be too hot in this kitchen - no man dares poke his nose!
Nah, not too hot. My stance has always been, whoever stays home does a majority of the household chores. That doesn't mean they become slaves to their partner, but if a man is out working full time to provide for the family, and the wife is home "taking care of the family", then it's reasonable to expect her to perform those "wife" things. That doesn't mean the husband should just toss his dirty drawers on the floor for her to pick up or nudge her awake at O-dark thirty to make him breakfast.
Those aren't the kind of people I would have over or be friends with. I would think they were petty and should get a life. Unless the place is hoarder central, who cares.
Not me. If I'm coming over to your place, its to see you, not to see your house.
Now I keep my place clean, not 100% spotless but pretty clean. I certainly won't leave any bills or bank statements out but you'd be likely to find an ad I got in the mail or a magazine lying around.
I'm not one of those "AHHHHHHH!!!! YOU LEFT A DISH IN THE SINK!!!! THE WORLD WILL COME TO AN END BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!!!!" exit, stage left, heart attack.
Nah, not too hot. My stance has always been, whoever stays home does a majority of the household chores. That doesn't mean they become slaves to their partner, but if a man is out working full time to provide for the family, and the wife is home "taking care of the family", then it's reasonable to expect her to perform those "wife" things. That doesn't mean the husband should just toss his dirty drawers on the floor for her to pick up or nudge her awake at O-dark thirty to make him breakfast.
Nah, not too hot. My stance has always been, whoever stays home does a majority of the household chores. That doesn't mean they become slaves to their partner, but if a man is out working full time to provide for the family, and the wife is home "taking care of the family", then it's reasonable to expect her to perform those "wife" things. That doesn't mean the husband should just toss his dirty drawers on the floor for her to pick up or nudge her awake at O-dark thirty to make him breakfast.
That's what I think. I am flabberghasted that there could even be a discussion in this thread. It seems like that whoever stays home, to take care of the home, take care of the home.
I'll just be an a hole and assume I'm the one working; that doesn't mean that I get to be a jerk when I get home. I can still help around the house here and their, but I would sure be pleased to come home and see "wifely" things done.
Yep, the same way there are "husband" things that are typically expected of a man...checking out that sound that went bump in the night, mow the grass, fix the leaky fawcett, change the oil on the car, etc. I'm not sure gender roles will ever go away entirely. But I don't believe that it's beyond reason to expect a husband to know how to wash his own clothes or cook his own meals, just like it's not unreasonable for your wife to kill that spider or paint the bedroom.
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