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10-28-2008, 08:25 PM
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Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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I'd prefer someone my height 5' 4" tall and a size 4 to 6 so I can dress her up in my clothes!
I don't like fat women but I attracted fat women when I was fat.
Between 5' 2" and 5' 6" tall I can tolerate up to a size 10.
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10-28-2008, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbledeez
If it's all about BMI, and it's impossible for a person to be considered both overweight and fit at the same time, and you're SO right about this, then tell me why BMI is known to be completely inaccurate for athletes....BMI scale calls them fat. Even gold medal olympic athletes.....fat......according to BMI.
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The BMI is a terrible indicator for anyone who works out, not just athletes. I'm talking about guys specifically. Girls don't in general have as much muscle mass, because of testosterone levels and also because most girls' workout programs are for being trim and fit, not muscular. The BMI is a joke, I've been laughing about that thing since I first found out about it. My friend in med school says they don't take it seriously either.
I am 5'10" and when I was not working out, I was very skinny, like scrawny as heck, I was 132 pounds at one point, but generally hovered around the 137 mark. When I started working out and eating properly, a higher protein diet and less junk food in general, I gained weight pretty rapidly, in the form of muscle mass. I eventually got up to 170-175 pounds, depending on the cycle of my lifting (you go up and down, you bulk up then you cut, and you repeat), with a body fat percentage of about 12%, which is quite good. I could have gotten that down to 8% if I really wanted to trim up, but I wanted the strength and muscle a bit more than I wanted the six-pack abs and lower body fat percentage. I had nicely defined abs but not like a true six pack, which you need to dehydrate your body to get also. It's pretty difficult even for people who are very knowledgeable about fitness, and in general it's not seen as worthwhile to keep that up unless you're making money on it, of course (modeling, fitness competitions, etc.). According to the BMI, when I hit 174 pounds, I was "overweight" for my height, which was awesome. I was very happy about that especially because I have a small bone structure, not sure if that's because I hated milk as a kid (haha, and still do) or because it's just how I was built, but I always fit into those basic definitions of "small frame," and after I bulked up I was in the "large frame" category, which was hilarious to me. Mainly because I had a small frame with lots of muscle mass, which in a lot of ways is ideal because when people saw me, they didn't think, "WOW that guy is HUGE," because in reality I still felt very small compared to a lot of the weight lifters I saw. But I could leg press 1,100 pounds 15 times, and I could bench 225 6-8 times, plus I could max out almost any standard machine, like shoulder presses (150 on each side), etc. So I was very strong for my size especially and in perfect shape. I didn't even do much cardio at first, I started hiking a lot then I got into Tae-Kwon-Do, which was a ton of cardio obviously, but when I was lifting I didn't do any cardio for the first year or so. Even so, weight lifting is not anaerobic if you're doing it right, it's definitely aerobic. It's a stupid idea that you don't gain lung capacity from lifting weights, haha. I went from being scrawny and unable to run a 9 minute mile to muscular and able to run a 6:30 mile! In fact, the one time I tested my mile time, I had just finished an hour-long extensive chest workout, and for fun decided to try running on the treadmill, and managed a 6:30 mile. Not bad for someone who had never run, jogged, or done anything like that in years. Yet I got my BMI to over 25.
The only measurement that matters is your body fat percentage, not your BMI, which is inaccurate for any guy who actually has muscle mass or exercises. The best way to measure your body fat percentage is probably by displacement, in water and whatnot, but nobody really wants to bother with that. I recommend the electrical impedance devices, where you grip with both hands and they give you a pretty accurate reading. There are also measurements that can be taken with a caliper I guess it is. Those are also accurate if you have a personal trainer to do that for you who knows what they're doing. But a guy in perfect shape should be around 12%, a girl should be around 18%. That's at the low end, however. High end, a guy can be 18% and still be ok, a girl can be 25% and still be ok. Anything more than that, you're overweight. If you're a girl and your body fat percentage is below 12%, that's pretty concerning, and if you're a guy below 5% that's pretty bad too. In general you need a "normal" body fat percentage to be healthy still because if you get sick, you want to have some body fat reserves so your body doesn't start feeding off its muscle, etc.
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10-28-2008, 11:24 PM
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Location: TX
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I'm not a fan of BMI either. After all, it would've said Michael Jordan was overweight during his prime.  Body fat is a really good quick method of measuring fitness if the calipers are used correctly.
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10-29-2008, 12:13 AM
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Ain't that the truth
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Originally Posted by DCNative
my sentiments exactly
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All these men no damn well they don't want a damn whale. Hell 30 today 90 next year! The only thing these big ass "yumpshires" (my own made up word) can do for me is tell me where a girl is half her size! I may like a lil meat too, but I don't want the whole damn cow!
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10-29-2008, 12:33 AM
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Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by ArthursChoice
All these men no damn well they don't want a damn whale. Hell 30 today 90 next year! The only thing these big ass "yumpshires" (my own made up word) can do for me is tell me where a girl is half her size! I may like a lil meat too, but I don't want the whole damn cow!
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Wow, that is pretty harsh toward any females out there that cannot help being so overweight due to thyroid/medical conditions and not necessarily due to a poor diet. I know someone who is almost 400 lbs and even on medication for her inactive thyroid, she cannot lose 15 lbs no matter how much she tries with eating right and regular exercise. Clumping the overweight together by classifying them as " big-@ss yumpshires" is about as classless and wrong as making fun of the mentally challenged. Your head is a big-@ss yumpshire.
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10-29-2008, 12:47 AM
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Location: Bradenton, Florida
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My wife was 180 and outweighed me by at LEAST 30 pounds. Didn't bother me none.
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10-29-2008, 12:51 AM
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Location: Iowa
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I went out with a girl that outweighed me by about 15 lbs on average. At one point, she outweighed me by 115... however, she was still the same person that I loved, and I stayed.
It was after the weight was gone that we parted.
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10-29-2008, 05:49 AM
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Location: Center of the universe
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Originally Posted by beowulf7
I'm not a fan of BMI either. After all, it would've said Michael Jordan was overweight during his prime.  Body fat is a really good quick method of measuring fitness if the calipers are used correctly.
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BMI is useless............calipers are often incorrect.
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10-29-2008, 07:41 AM
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Location: SUNNY AZ
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Originally Posted by Dbledeez
If it's all about BMI, and it's impossible for a person to be considered both overweight and fit at the same time, and you're SO right about this, then tell me why BMI is known to be completely inaccurate for athletes....BMI scale calls them fat.
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hahahaha.....are you takin' me on Dbledeez???   Look sweetie...it's fundementally impossible to be fat fit....that's a total contradiction.....BMI is a great source if you have it done correctly however, I put most of my trust in pure body fat.....how fit can you be if your also considered to be overweight???  serioulsy....
btw, if your stance on BMI is that it's false why use it as part of your argument???
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Even gold medal olympic athletes.....fat......according to BMI.
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10-29-2008, 07:42 AM
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Location: SUNNY AZ
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How about this.....I'll meet you guys over in the fitness forum 
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