A male perspective on the sexual women (American, emotionally, responsible)

[Yzette]

Originally Posted by 007.5

Unless , perhaps, hes confident of acquiring 1 of over 33 circulating STD's from the National STD Epidemic ... then he might have second thoughts.

Newsflash: Virgins can have STDs.

[007.5]

Originally Posted by DennyCrane

And if he's afraid of catching something, he should ask if his partner has been tested. But to infer that someone is more likely to have an STD based on the number of people they've been with seems a little odd. There are plenty of people out there who haven't had a lot of partners but still have an STD. All it takes is one time to catch something. So if someone hasn't been with a lot of people, are you going to just give them the benefit of the doubt and not inquire about their health? That seems pretty risky. I think a lot of guys are just hiding behind the "it's my health" line and using it as an excuse to pry into someone's else's past.

You can always try to inquire as to whether someone has been checked out lately, or, if they know they are carrying an STD ... but lets face it, if someone has a sexual conquest with you in mind , they are very likely not going to disclose anything that would ruin their chance of having you as their next copulation. Plus, the person could be a Carrier of an STD and not even know it (yet) because it hasnt matured enough but is still transferrable . Sexual Immorality and utmost honesty are traits that dont mix well together , lets face it ; not even a professionally conducted Lie Detector Test would produce 100% confidence.

Your point about catching an STD on the first time is credible as a friend of mine got genital herpes for life on her first time with a new individual who claimed to 'be clean' ; of course , the more sexual history one comes along with ... the greater the chances of contraction which is how the National STD Epidemic came to be and is no so widespread.

Its a risky business today and one that many are oblivious toward since the Mass Media makes it seem like so much permissible fun...and Actors get Academy Awards for portraying (in part) their sexual proclivities on the big screen ; perhaps theres a foundational lie of great magnitude going on with the Casual Sex culture in America (?) . Seems so to me , putting aside genital satisfaction for a second.

[007.5]

Originally Posted by Avienne

Newsflash: Virgins can have STDs.

I have no doubt.

[andreaspercheron]

^Agreed w/ Avienne. But aside from that. This thread started off one way and for the last several pages, everyone has been overly heated on the debate of whether you can / should or want to ask about your partners sexual exploits. The fact is and always will remain, regardless of what someone tells you, they can / will and do lie - and unless you're strapping them to a lie detector machine, you HAVE to take their word. You can't admonish someone because you've set up a magic number in your mind that negates them from ever being a part of your life.
People have sex. Period. Some people have more partners and are horrible in bed and some have less and are amazing in bed. You will never truly know how many people your partner (s) have slept with because chances are you didn't know them or spend every waking moment with that person. If you like someone you like them. Everything else is subjective.

[Yzette]

Originally Posted by JustJulia

He says: So how many men have you slept with?
She says: Four.
He thinks: Great, her number is low!
She thinks: And they were all at the same time. What a party!

LMAO! Can't rep you at the moment.

Also, that reminds me of something: There are plenty of young women who are virgins or who haven't had intercourse with many men, yet could teach Traci Lords a thing or two about head.

[JustJulia]

Originally Posted by Avienne

LMAO! Can't rep you at the moment.

Also, that reminds me of something: There are plenty of young women who are virgins or who haven't had intercourse with many men, yet could teach Traci Lords a thing or two about head.

Also: saddlebacking.

I'm from Lake Forest, where Saddleback Church is.

[007.5]

'You will never truly know how many people your partner (s) have slept with because chances are you didn't know them or spend every waking moment with that person. If you like someone you like them. Everything else is subjective.'


REPLY: Except for a terminal STD like AIDS and HPV (precursor to cervical cancer in women which is growing at alarming rates).... then everything becomes OBJECTIVE .

[andreaspercheron]

Originally Posted by 007.5

'You will never truly know how many people your partner (s) have slept with because chances are you didn't know them or spend every waking moment with that person. If you like someone you like them. Everything else is subjective.'


REPLY: Except for a terminal STD like AIDS and HPV (precursor to cervical cancer in women which is growing at alarming rates).... then everything becomes OBJECTIVE .

No really? Thanks Captain Obvious. LOL I KNOW that and would hope that other common sensed adults know this too. OBVIOUSLY the first mistake people make is having sex right away and then asking questions. A normal relationship should start out with you getting to know each other and through that exploration period, those subject would come up, obviously HEALTH issues and such.
I'm just making a point that even if a person tells the truth about the number of people they have slept with YOU as the other party would have NO real way of knowing.

Hope that wasn't difficult for you to keep up with. I tried to break it down Barney style for ya.

[007.5]

Originally Posted by andreaspercheron

No really? Thanks Captain Obvious. LOL I KNOW that and would hope that other common sensed adults know this too. OBVIOUSLY the first mistake people make is having sex right away and then asking questions. A normal relationship should start out with you getting to know each other and through that exploration period, those subject would come up, obviously HEALTH issues and such.
I'm just making a point that even if a person tells the truth about the number of people they have slept with YOU as the other party would have NO real way of knowing.

Hope that wasn't difficult for you to keep up with. I tried to break it down Barney style for ya.

That may sound logical to you, but, it makes NO DIFFERENCE as to how well you emotionally get to know someone before having sex ; if the person comes with an STD that he/she knows they have , or, if they dont know they are carrying .... it doesnt solve the issue now does it ?! The fact remains when you sleep with someone, you ARE essentially sleeping with every other bed partner theyve had. And...its not necessary for you to resort to snide comments of defamation with me .

[DennyCrane]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Basically, you'd want to check out the track record of someone you might get involved with and if it's just failed relationship after another you need to be cautious.

It's perfectly normal to be curious about someone's past. But what's also true is that people change. This goes back to what I was saying about only getting half the truth. You could meet someone with a history of failed relationships and wonder if there's something wrong with them. But what really matters is whether they learned from those failures and whether they're a different (and better) person now.

Originally Posted by 007.5

Its a risky business today and one that many are oblivious toward since the Mass Media makes it seem like so much permissible fun...and Actors get Academy Awards for portraying (in part) their sexual proclivities on the big screen ; perhaps theres a foundational lie of great magnitude going on with the Casual Sex culture in America (?) . Seems so to me , putting aside genital satisfaction for a second.

Oh please. Don't pin that on the media. I love how people blame TV and movies for society's ills. Did it ever occur to you that maybe this stuff was going on already and that the media is just now showing it?