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Old 01-07-2011, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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That sounds good enough to me. What are we arguing about then?
I'm not sure.

This is what happens when I can't access my usual nothing-to-do-on-a-sociable-night forum. I start making arguments on other forums :|

 
Old 01-07-2011, 09:57 PM
 
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415_s2k,
Just shows how women pick which traditions to keep and which to get rid of. They can talk about how much money they have, power, authority, how brave they are, how many risks they take, etc. But when it comes to dating, all that is thrown out the window.

What's up with the whole "I won't offer to pay for the tip until later on along the road"? Which can take months or years. A guy doesn't hold himself from being nice regardless of being date #1 or #100. Why would women hold themselves from being nice and showing nice gestures?

Try dating asian women (non westernized). Call it coincidence or luck but so far when I go out with them they don't just show up and that's it.
 
Old 01-07-2011, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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The answer is probably pretty simple onihC, it's because they can.
 
Old 01-07-2011, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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If it ever happens to me, I'll pay the portion, promptly find my way to my car, and will never be seen again, as I already mentioned.
Sierra, so I'm on a date and it's going well. We're flirting and talking about the next date. The kind of date, where he helps me with my coat and seat...I love it. Check please. Childfree, with tax and tip you owe... WTH.

I say again, WTF. Really, I mean really. Okay. I never go on a date penniless anyway. Okay, that's fine.

Maybe, I missed out. I'm sure someone will say, you could've missed out on a good man. How about he missed out on a good woman.

I would walk through the door dailing your number. Sierra, guess what this mofo did.
 
Old 01-07-2011, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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I'm sure someone will say, you could've missed out on a good man.
You wouldn't. It's not about money; it's about character.
 
Old 01-07-2011, 10:03 PM
 
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Childfree35,
How can a guy find out if he missed out on a nice woman if all she did was show up? See, women test men and put them through months or years of probation (initial stages) and then maybe they might offer to contribute to expenses or do more than just showing up and the many reasons women mention are: I want to see if he's serious, I want to see if he's generous, I want to see if he will be my good provider, etc. Ok, but, do you think a man will be convinced that the girl is good for him if all she does is just, well, show up? How can a guy see if she is generous and so on?
 
Old 01-07-2011, 10:15 PM
 
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Childfree35,
How can a guy find out if he missed out on a nice woman if all she did was show up? See, women test men and put them through months or years of probation (initial stages) and then maybe they might offer to contribute to expenses or do more than just showing up and the many reasons women mention are: I want to see if he's serious, I want to see if he's generous, I want to see if he will be my good provider, etc. Ok, but, do you think a man will be convinced that the girl is good for him if all she does is just, well, show up? How can a guy see if she is generous and so on?
Its about the man feeling honored to have the woman in her presence and the woman feeling honored that he's paying..what more do you want for a first date? do you never get laid or something?
 
Old 01-07-2011, 10:18 PM
 
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Its about the man feeling honored to have the woman in her presence and the woman feeling honored that he's paying..what more do you want for a first date? do you never get laid or something?
I am not used to going out with mooches. The girls I go out with ask me out and vice versa. Doesn't matter who asked who, who came up with the plan, etc. It doesn't hold them or me to show nice gestures right off the bat. We split, they take care of my dinner, I take care of theirs, etc. Just goes back and forth. That is why I find it interesting how western girls demand all kinds from men, including taking care of your expenses, but not be willing to offer all those things they demand. A man's presence is not enough for you?
 
Old 01-07-2011, 10:31 PM
 
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I am not used to going out with mooches. The girls I go out with ask me out and vice versa. Doesn't matter who asked who, who came up with the plan, etc. It doesn't hold them or me to show nice gestures right off the bat. We split, they take care of my dinner, I take care of theirs, etc. Just goes back and forth. That is why I find it interesting how western girls demand all kinds from men, including taking care of your expenses, but not be willing to offer all those things they demand. A man's presence is not enough for you?
Tell me then, what does a man want?

The man's presence obviously is enough for me, I agreed to the date, didn't I?
 
Old 01-07-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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Tell me then, what does a man want?
Afraid you'll have to ask a man, hon'...
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