Is being an Indian guy really that big of a limitation in the dating world? (Valentines, friends)

[Jefetio]

Originally Posted by Texas User

It comes down to confidence.

This guy took confidence to a weird extreme. He had a self portrait hanging in his house, that was about 2 foot wide by 3 foot tall of just his face. It was in black and white, except for the irises of his eyes, which were like a neon blue. I kid you not. Everyone who knew him thought he was kind of "out there" but I swear it worked for him when it came to women.

[Currency Pair Crocodile]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

You know---I just thought about it. The other day I was forced to go to temple and there was this booklet there.

The booklet was about how Indian women in USA and Canada do not want to date Indian guys. They said it was becoming a problem that "their women" are running off with foreigners and different men of different races. And I laughed because I am like that.

I am Indian and do not think I could ever get with an Indian guy. I actually dislike the Indian culture very much. If I do get with an Indian guy (When I lose my mind) he has to be light skinned and completely un-attached to the Indian culture. I refuse to marry anyone from India. He has to be US/Canadian born. Why do I say this?

Just look at the OP. Just whining and whining. Indian men are very into themselves and the culture. They think that because they are men, women should bow down to them and do whatever. They are the head of the household and that is that. No questions asked. And they're dark, hairy and smell. It is especially a turn if they have a turban and talk FOB. Why would I go for a man who is dark, talks funny, has a turban, is hairy and unshaven when there are wonderful attractive light skinned boys who are not sexist or talk like a FOB? I have never dated an Indian guy and don't think I plan on it unless he is a very special case.

But nonetheless, I agree with the OP. It does suck to be an Indian man. Indian men are starting to realize what is going on in the US and Canada with "their women" running away from members of their own race.

And I hope it keeps on happening. Indian women have been repressed for a long time. And I refuse to be repressed or told I must marry an Indian guy.

A great loss for Indian dudes. I mean it.

You know, if you're gonna put your picture on here, heads are gonna roll.

You're excused And I'll hook you up with my brother, just kidding

[Marissy]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

I am a young, good looking () light skinned Punjabi Indian woman. THIS post here is the reason why I don't think I will ever date an Indian man.

Just saying.

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

You know---I just thought about it. The other day I was forced to go to temple and there was this booklet there.

The booklet was about how Indian women in USA and Canada do not want to date Indian guys. They said it was becoming a problem that "their women" are running off with foreigners and different men of different races. And I laughed because I am like that.

I am Indian and do not think I could ever get with an Indian guy. I actually dislike the Indian culture very much. If I do get with an Indian guy (When I lose my mind) he has to be light skinned and completely un-attached to the Indian culture. I refuse to marry anyone from India. He has to be US/Canadian born. Why do I say this?

Just look at the OP. Just whining and whining. Indian men are very into themselves and the culture. They think that because they are men, women should bow down to them and do whatever. They are the head of the household and that is that. No questions asked. And they're dark, hairy and smell. It is especially a turn if they have a turban and talk FOB. Why would I go for a man who is dark, talks funny, has a turban, is hairy and unshaven when there are wonderful attractive light skinned boys who are not sexist or talk like a FOB? I have never dated an Indian guy and don't think I plan on it unless he is a very special case.

But nonetheless, I agree with the OP. It does suck to be an Indian man. Indian men are starting to realize what is going on in the US and Canada with "their women" running away from members of their own race.

And I hope it keeps on happening. Indian women have been repressed for a long time. And I refuse to be repressed or told I must marry an Indian guy.

Dark skin is not ugly! I hate the racist attitude (across all races) that you are prettier if your skin is lighter. There are tons of ugly as sin light folk around. People can help their attitudes and personal flaws (dressing bad and being smelly) but people don't get to choose the skin they are born with! I don't think the human race will ever progress... It is understandable if you don't agree with the cultural attitudes, I can't blame you on that. There are lots of things in the American culture that I don't like.

*edit* I'll hook up with your brother, Chamataka...O.O Jk.

[Currency Pair Crocodile]

Originally Posted by Marissy

Dark skin is not ugly! I hate the racist attitude (across all races) that you are prettier if your skin is lighter. There are tons of ugly as sin light folk around. People can help their attitudes and personal flaws (dressing bad and being smelly) but people don't get to choose the skin they are born with! I don't think the human race will ever progress... It is understandable if you don't agree with the cultural attitudes, I can't blame you on that. There are lots of things in the American culture that I don't like.

*edit* I'll hook up with your brother, Chamataka...O.O Jk.

He lives in Canada

Well, I don't think theliberalvoice is racist. If we go by that rule, India is racist as a whole

For me racism is different. This is what I consider racist - refusal to touch, refusal to use the same things like glasses, food plates, refusal to sit by the side, refuse friendship of all kinds, total hatred of the person's right to exist and be free.

However, dating is something which involves sexual intercourse, eventually. There are some people a person cannot imagine to have intercourse with, which does not necessarily mean they are racist. It stems out of a lack of attraction.

The term racist is simply blown out of proportion in America. It's a social problem, not a romantic problem. If someone refuses to date someone, based on race, that is NOT racism. But if someone refuses to even shake hands with someone owing to difference in race, that IS racism. Over time, popular culture and the tv pundits mixed both.

[headhunter18]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

You know---I just thought about it. The other day I was forced to go to temple and there was this booklet there.

The booklet was about how Indian women in USA and Canada do not want to date Indian guys. They said it was becoming a problem that "their women" are running off with foreigners and different men of different races. And I laughed because I am like that.

I am Indian and do not think I could ever get with an Indian guy. I actually dislike the Indian culture very much. If I do get with an Indian guy (When I lose my mind) he has to be light skinned and completely un-attached to the Indian culture. I refuse to marry anyone from India. He has to be US/Canadian born. Why do I say this?

Just look at the OP. Just whining and whining. Indian men are very into themselves and the culture. They think that because they are men, women should bow down to them and do whatever. They are the head of the household and that is that. No questions asked. And they're dark, hairy and smell. It is especially a turn if they have a turban and talk FOB. Why would I go for a man who is dark, talks funny, has a turban, is hairy and unshaven when there are wonderful attractive light skinned boys who are not sexist or talk like a FOB? I have never dated an Indian guy and don't think I plan on it unless he is a very special case.

But nonetheless, I agree with the OP. It does suck to be an Indian man. Indian men are starting to realize what is going on in the US and Canada with "their women" running away from members of their own race.

And I hope it keeps on happening. Indian women have been repressed for a long time. And I refuse to be repressed or told I must marry an Indian guy.

Thank you very much for the very insightful stereotypical rant here, it's pretty apparent from your posts that you are a very angry, the supposedly liberal woman who wants to show her liberty by dating people(sleeping around) away from her race, and of course inherently racist with your prejudice against the dark skinned men.

Also, we would be very very happy to see dimwits like you go away from our race, it's not in our best interests to hang on to angry feminists who can't raise a family or a child, and would throw tantrums and blame the man of the household just like you do here, also, wherever you go in this world, man is supposed to be the head of the family, sorry I know it goes against your feminist agenda, but then that's the way nature intended it to be. Even here in the USA, I have never seen a proper family where the mom, dad and children live under one roof where the head of the family is a woman, it's always the man, except of course when there are angry feminists who divorce the man, make him pay through the nose, take the custody of their children away from them and call themselves the head of the broken family, you belong to that club.

Apart from all the above mentioned facts, you talk crap about people that have come into this nation recently by calling him FOB's, you perhaps assume that you have a divine right to claim this nation as your's, sorry to break your ice hun, but this nation is built on immigrants, and more and more of them would continue to come, there's nothing you can do to stop it. Also, in case you have had a proper brain and IQ above 40, you would have known that the OP himself is born and brought up in USA, essentially, an American, NOT an Indian, lol.

Also, even though you might feel happy about the fact that there are some self hating, deeply inferior complexity bearing feminists, the majority of Indian women even here in USA overwhelmingly go for Indian men, and there are quite a few American women who are into Indian men for that reason, I guess that might break your heart, but that's the way it is. Also, I am sure no Indian in his right mind would want to even touch a racist(dark skin hating) and megalomaniac(delusions of women domineering men) excuse of a creature like you, in fact, no man of any race would go for you. It's sad thinking about what a future you have ahead, but you deserve every bit of it.

Regards,
A dark skinned Indian(and proud of it)

[samston]

OP, dude, what is your solution to your problem?

You cannot change the US culture. No one individual by themselves can. Pop culture has infused the USA with images (no matter how illogical or ill-founded) regarding Indian men. The issue then is to use these to your advantage or to circumvent them.

As for disliking Indian culture, well look at it this way. Western societies are more liberal due to historical accident. We developed the Enlightenment, and followed from there. There was no Indian Enligtenment or Chinese Enlightment for that matter, hence these societies being more conservative than modern Western cultures. I think you should accept your culture for what it is, and accept the many positives of Indian culture over looking at the bad.

[samston]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

You know---I just thought about it. The other day I was forced to go to temple and there was this booklet there.

The booklet was about how Indian women in USA and Canada do not want to date Indian guys. They said it was becoming a problem that "their women" are running off with foreigners and different men of different races. And I laughed because I am like that.

I am Indian and do not think I could ever get with an Indian guy. I actually dislike the Indian culture very much. If I do get with an Indian guy (When I lose my mind) he has to be light skinned and completely un-attached to the Indian culture. I refuse to marry anyone from India. He has to be US/Canadian born. Why do I say this?

Just look at the OP. Just whining and whining. Indian men are very into themselves and the culture. They think that because they are men, women should bow down to them and do whatever. They are the head of the household and that is that. No questions asked. And they're dark, hairy and smell. It is especially a turn if they have a turban and talk FOB. Why would I go for a man who is dark, talks funny, has a turban, is hairy and unshaven when there are wonderful attractive light skinned boys who are not sexist or talk like a FOB? I have never dated an Indian guy and don't think I plan on it unless he is a very special case.

But nonetheless, I agree with the OP. It does suck to be an Indian man. Indian men are starting to realize what is going on in the US and Canada with "their women" running away from members of their own race.

And I hope it keeps on happening. Indian women have been repressed for a long time. And I refuse to be repressed or told I must marry an Indian guy.

do US Indian women go for black guys, or does having dark skin preclude this?

[headhunter18]

Originally Posted by samston

OP, dude, what is your solution to your problem?

You cannot change the US culture. No one individual by themselves can. Pop culture has infused the USA with images (no matter how illogical or ill-founded) regarding Indian men. The issue then is to use these to your advantage or to circumvent them.

As for disliking Indian culture, well look at it this way. Western societies are more liberal due to historical accident. We developed the Enlightenment, and followed from there. There was no Indian Enligtenment or Chinese Enlightment for that matter, hence these societies being more conservative than modern Western cultures. I think you should accept your culture for what it is, and accept the many positives of Indian culture over looking at the bad.

I agree, this problem has no solution. It's just the way it is, there are some things in life that we won't like and can do nothing to change them, we got to take them in our stride and move on. I have had experiences online where I meet a woman and she talks to me in a very friendly manner, has nothing but good things to say about me, is very impressed with my education, wisdom, knowledge, philosophical insight into life and so on, but the moment I tell them that I am Indian, they run away from me as if I am the satan himself.

I refuse to call them racist or any such inspite of that, because I understand that they might be influenced by the media, pop culture, society and might have a lot of pre conceived notions that they fail to let go. But should that make me bitter? I would say not because I refuse to accept myself as just another sheep in the herd, beyond the fact that I am a desi, etc etc, i am just myself, an embodiment of thoughts and opinions developed over a lifetime of observation and study. And yes, I can live without having sex with random women, esp. if those women are the type that judge someone knowing nothing about the person in question.

[headhunter18]

Originally Posted by samston

do US Indian women go for black guys, or does having dark skin preclude this?

Not sure about the Indian women in US, but in my opinion and observation, Black men are the most sought after men esp. by white American women in modern days, and when white american women talk about having an interracial relationship, it's 99% true that it would be a black man.

I have observed the social order in US to be such in terms of preference:

1) White men/Black men(most sought after now when it comes to IR relations)
2) Hispanic men
3) Asian men
4) Middle Eastern/Indian men(I have seen that most American women don't even know that India isn't part of the Middle East, they assume Indian men are Middle Eastern too)

[africanboy]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

I am Indian and do not think I could ever get with an Indian guy. I actually dislike the Indian culture very much. If I do get with an Indian guy (When I lose my mind) he has to be light skinned and completely un-attached to the Indian culture. I refuse to marry anyone from India. He has to be US/Canadian born. Why do I say this?

You should make a trip to South Africa and see how much less caste based the Indians there live their lives. On Facebook, none of my darker skinned Indian friends seem to have a problem getting with Indian girls of any shades. It's a total shock for me having grown up with that, now seeing all the hate that is thrown towards Indian men. And I'm not talking about the stereotypical ones either, I'm talking about good looking guys who speak fluent English and have their lives together. But as they say, life goes on. I understand you having your preferences and all, but don't rule out all Indian men who are proud of their culture. They are definitely better men than those with inferiority complexes who live their lives in a state of somberness...