Young people what are you so afraid of? (loyalty, divorce, daughter)

[Currency Pair Crocodile]

Originally Posted by mir86

exactly!! you're a smart man antlered!

I have encouraged quite a handful to move in with their parents rather than pushing themselves upside down, given the conditions around. And some keep thanking me for giving them that enlightenment talk.

I sang a beatles song to one of the guys and that did the trick for him. He moved back in and he is still job hunting. It has helped him a great deal to cut unnecessary expenses in this day and age.

You see the wonder kids of the 70s didn't have to deal with all these deficits, foreign competition, outsourcing, one million bills and broken healthcare, etc., and they still goofed around in hippy clothes and one night stands in zeppelin concerts, not to forget the cheap dope and all sorts of bleh, and suddenly they feel so enlightened in the 2010s after successfully bottoming the economy with their superior skills. Epic fail

[stan4]

Originally Posted by Ulysses61

My students are affluent doctoral students. There is no excuse they are living at home without paying room and board. Most were bought brand new Benz's or BMW's on their 16th birthday and are merely delaying adulthood by writing their dissertations. The job market for doctorates in history is nil and they know it. Most have never held a job. Everyone of my generation had part time jobs at McDonalds when they were 16.

"Maybe they won't get into their dream grad school as a result."

They are in grad school already, a prestigious one at that.

Delaying adulthood is their mantra. Sorry, I don't have sympathy.

You take your weird sense of pride (oh, and btw, I've been working since I was 11) and I'll take my money straight to the bank.

[city_data91]

Originally Posted by 90sman

I suppose this trend may be common in the NE part of the country, especially in NYC, but where I live, most 20 somethings are still marrying, living on their own and having children and working. I even know a couple of teenagers that are currently doing the same things I mentioned. One of my classmates at school is 19, just married about a year ago, has a baby son, is currently making the honor roll and is taking college classes as well and working! I have to give her a big round of applause for accomplishing so much at only 19. If she can do it, then these 20 somethings you guys mentioned that have graduated from college, have a career and are still living with their parents are apparently immature and reluctant to grow up and be an adult.

From your posts, I can tell you put too much emphasis on getting married young.

If your classmate is in high school at 19, that should tell you something. I'm 19 and I'm 1 credit away from being a college junior. I haven't been in high school since 2009.

I don't care how much your classmate has "accomplished." What's she doing in high school at 19?

[Oberleutnant]

I can't blame them for simply taking advantage of an advantageous situation. One friend of mine does have it good. He is an only child and will turn 29 this year and still lives with his parents. He graduated from a UC and has had a successful full time white collar career in finance for the past five years. He is blessed with some very chill parents both of whom work well paying professional jobs in high tech. He pretty much lives at home during the work week and heads out of town every weekend to be with his pretty long time girlfriend at her place. When he was 22 his parents bought him a nice Corvette having bought Camaro's for him previously. He has never had to pay any significant living expenses and his parents even pay his cell phone bill. I can only imagine he must have one very fat bank account having worked full time all these years with no real expenses. His parents have also offered to pay the down payment on a house whenever he does move out. Him and his family go on vacations to China and elsewhere quite often and they have all the latest gadgets, TV's, etc. I have asked him if he has considered moving out and getting married and it is not even on his radar. From what I can tell he seems quite happy and content with his situation.

It may seem unfair or silly to others, but a young adult in a situation like this can be well positioned with a huge amount of savings stashed whenever they do decide to live independently. Move out, get married and have kids at a young age like in the past? Not so fast with many young people today.

[chacho_keva]

Originally Posted by Magritte25

Really? Interesting. Because from what I know of history (and I know a fair bit) the whole "leave at 18 and don't look back" type of thing is a new phenomena. It used to be that several generations lived under one roof.

Wonder how we made it this far?

Pfft! What a bunch of horse pucky! This may have been so hundreds of years ago. But lady. . .this is the 21st freekin' century. The fact that it's a so called "recent phenomena" does not take merit away from the fact that able children should get going on their own without mommy's or daddy's hand holding.

Again, I mostly blame our generation for producing boomerang, and/or overly dependent children whom, while being able to provide for themselves, choose to live under mommy and daddy's roof because "it's convenient." But, my goodness, isn't it rather obvious when it's time to flap your wings and get yourself going? No parent wants to be placed in a position of having to tell their kid. . ."get out!"

[chacho_keva]

Originally Posted by Oberleutnant

I can't blame them for simply taking advantage of an advantageous situation. One friend of mine does have it good. He is an only child and will turn 29 this year and still lives with his parents. He graduated from a UC and has had a successful full time white collar career in finance for the past five years. He is blessed with some very chill parents both of whom work well paying professional jobs in high tech. He pretty much lives at home during the work week and heads out of town every weekend to be with his pretty long time girlfriend at her place. When he was 22 his parents bought him a nice Corvette having bought Camaro's for him previously. He has never had to pay any significant living expenses and his parents even pay his cell phone bill. I can only imagine he must have one very fat bank account having worked full time all these years with no real expenses. His parents have also offered to pay the down payment on a house whenever he does move out. Him and his family go on vacations to China and elsewhere quite often and they have all the latest gadgets, TV's, etc. I have asked him if he has considered moving out and getting married and it is not even on his radar. From what I can tell he seems quite happy and content with his situation.

It may seem unfair or silly to others, but a young adult in a situation like this can be well positioned with a huge amount of savings stashed whenever they do decide to live independently. Move out, get married and have kids at a young age like in the past? Not so fast with many young people today.

I can almost barf after reading this. Forget about marriage and having kids. That's immaterial to all this. But to be 29 and still have your parents pay for your cars, cell phone, and offer you a DP on a home? Jesus! I sounds like mommy and daddy don't have a whole lot of faith on little Johnny's abilities.

I'd be offended if my parents tried to do this for me (which they wouldn't cause I wouldn't allow it). This may possibly be a useless person who has little ability to deal with and confront difficult situations. When the stuff hits the fan the first words out of his mouth (regardless of his age) will be. . .MOMMYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

[Axle grease]

Originally Posted by chacho_keva

Pfft! What a bunch of horse pucky! This may have been so hundreds of years ago. But lady. . .this is the 21st freekin' century. The fact that it's a so called "recent phenomena" does not take merit away from the fact that able children should get going on their own without mommy's or daddy's hand holding.

Again, I mostly blame our generation for producing boomerang, and/or overly dependent children whom, while being able to provide for themselves, choose to live under mommy and daddy's roof because "it's convenient." But, my goodness, isn't it rather obvious when it's time to flap your wings and get yourself going? No parent wants to be placed in a position of having to tell their kid. . ."get out!"

It's funny you say that. When they become elderly, they wish they would "get in"! Yeah, you know the types......... the ones who move half way across the Country many States away and EXPECT me to take my neighbor (your mom or dad) to the grocery store, mow their lawn or whatever else they can't be bothered with.

[Axle grease]

It's a miracle how fast the kids who beat a trail outta there and practically disowned their parents are waiting with their greedy hands out when that time comes too. You'd get NOTHING if it was me! I know a few guys who got their homes for it. The kids.......... boy oh boy were they p*ssed!

[DrEarth]

This was an interesting read. As some have pointed out, times have changed, and while not bringing politics into the discussion, there are many factors why children continue to live at home.

Anyway, I would live with my parents and they would welcome me even in my 30s. I could care less what everyone else thinks.

Granted, I would choose not to live with my parents if I was making 100k, but if it works for them, mind your own business and find something else to gripe about.

[Axle grease]

Being nice and a good friend to the elderly always pays off!