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Old 02-27-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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if you were otherwise guaranteed all the sex partners you could ever want, financial stability, enough company, and children? You may be thinking, well eh no, duh. But aren't we told that we ae to marry only for love, and not to fulfill these peripheral needs.. PS. I don't think this is entirely a hypothetical. For most of us, yes, but not for all..

Maybe what I'm really asking is, For most of us, is marriage more of a necessity than we want to admit?
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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To me it is, or at least it's supposed to be, about stability, and I appreciate stability and loyalty. That's not to say I'd necessarily do it anymore, but hypothetically speaking, that's my opinion.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I agree with Sierra. On the other hand, having been married once and burned, if it weren't for the fact I still want to be a father, maybe not. Maybe I'd just live with a woman without the piece of paper at this point. Divorce was the hardest thing I've ever been through by far. I don't know how people cope with it (the dumpees, that is). But I'm a one woman kind of guy, so I guess living with a woman without marriage, but with the commitment, would be ideal for me.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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To me it is, or at least it's supposed to be, about stability, and I appreciate stability and loyalty. That's not to say I'd necessarily do it anymore, but hypothetically speaking, that's my opinion.
I so admire those whose sense of integrity leads them down a difficult path, but they stay the course. I'm thinking of one lady in particular who passed away not long ago; she was a beauty, and I think often those are the ones that have the audacity to be so independent. But she took herself out of a marriage that had been difficult for years and into her 40's, began to build a life for herself. She had no real education but she was bright and strong and genuine and made her way in the world alone.. I miss her..

I think more of us than would like to admit it do not have such courage as this..
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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While you cannot discount the practical nature of marriage for those "necessities" you mentioned, marriage to me is so much bigger than that.

Marriage was never meant to be just a contract between two parties that benefits them each.

Marriage, when done right, is a solemn and binding relationship of exquisite intimacy and committment. It feeds the soul as well as it feeds the body.

Even if all other needs were being met without a marriage, marriage would still always be important to me for encountering the most sublime of relationships.

For a true marriage is the meeting of two minds, two hearts and two souls in such a fashion as to meld together over time so that eventually you cannot tell where one ends and the other begins
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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If you are married respect your vows. If you don't want to do that then divorce. That is my take on it
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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While you cannot discount the practical nature of marriage for those "necessities" you mentioned, marriage to me is so much bigger than that.

Marriage was never meant to be just a contract between two parties that benefits them each.

Marriage, when done right, is a solemn and binding relationship of exquisite intimacy and committment. It feeds the soul as well as it feeds the body.

Even if all other needs were being met without a marriage, marriage would still always be important to me for encountering the most sublime of relationships.

For a true marriage is the meeting of two minds, two hearts and two souls in such a fashion as to meld together over time so that eventually you cannot tell where one ends and the other begins

Agreed on all counts. But I have also found these outside of holy wedlock.. I don't think I'm alone..
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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I agree with Sierra. On the other hand, having been married once and burned, if it weren't for the fact I still want to be a father, maybe not. Maybe I'd just live with a woman without the piece of paper at this point. Divorce was the hardest thing I've ever been through by far. I don't know how people cope with it (the dumpees, that is). But I'm a one woman kind of guy, so I guess living with a woman without marriage, but with the commitment, would be ideal for me.
Sorry to hear you're in pain. I've, many of us have been there. Be glad, you probably are, that you have no kids with your ex. On that note, how stigmatized would you feel if you were to have kids without the piece of paper? Would it bother you that your kids would be "bastards"?
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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if you were otherwise guaranteed all the sex partners you could ever want, financial stability, enough company, and children? You may be thinking, well eh no, duh. But aren't we told that we ae to marry only for love, and not to fulfill these peripheral needs.. PS. I don't think this is entirely a hypothetical. For most of us, yes, but not for all..

Maybe what I'm really asking is, For most of us, is marriage more of a necessity than we want to admit?
Forgive me for sounding trite, but to me, I would not want to live in a world where I did not have someone to share my good times and bad, in sickness in healthy, to love honor and obey, till death us do part!

Life is about making that connection, mutual experiences and making that kind of connection. Without marriage, to me at least, life would be meaningless.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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Forgive me for sounding trite, but to me, I would not want to live in a world where I did not have someone to share my good times and bad, in sickness in healthy, to love honor and obey, till death us do part!

Life is about making that connection, mutual experiences and making that kind of connection. Without marriage, to me at least, life would be meaningless.

20yrsinBranson
You COULD (maybe) have someone to share all your good times and bad, without the piece of paper.. No?
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