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Old 03-08-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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With all due respect, I believe you're incorrect. The "idea" might have come sooner but the institution of marriage was conjured up by St Paul to eliminate what he perceived as illicit sexual activities.
Wait... I said the idea of marriage existed before St. Paul, but he may have been the one to create it as an institution. You state you disagree, then state the exact same thing I just said. So you actually agree with me but don't understand that.

And as Taoist Dude pointed out, even the institution of marriage existed before St. Paul.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I believe in Love and long term relationships . Marriage to me is nothing but a social convention, a piece of paper. It makes a lot of people feel more secure for some obscure reasons but apart from financial advantages I do not personally see why marriage is superior in any way to being in a loving, stable relationship.


I was with my now husband for over 20 years before we tied the knot and I genuinely do not feel any different. Our relationship is no better ( or worse). We had a good thing before , and we still do.

Marriage will not make a defective relationship work IMO. Being married was ( and is ) more important to Hubby than it is to me and to be honest I would have quite happily carried on "living in sin" had it not been important to him and for the aforesaid financial benefits ( such as "next of kin" rights , and the rights to his pension - apparently being with someone you love for over 20 years is not as "worthy" as getting married in Vegas after a drunken one night stand when it comes to the law. I find that grossly offensive personally ).

I am not against marriage but I do not see how it improves anything , in terms of love and emotional involvement. Most people I know who are still together after years and years did not get married for quite a while . Either you are a perfect "fit" with your SO or you are not. That piece of paper will not square anything in my opinion.

Marriage is important to many people and I respect that , to me though it is no indicator of happiness or commitment.

I was deeply committed to now Hubby from about a month in our relationship and both of us were for all intents and purposed married in our eyes in most respects.

Love is what matters. With or without that bit of paper. You are nothing without it .
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:04 PM
 
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you must believe !! because you must marry with someone at least !!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I'm not attracted to old people and can't imagine myself ever being attracted to old people (even when I'm old).

That's one of the reasons I'm never getting married...I have no desire to grow old with someone

My mom's explanation for why my grandparents stay married: they want to grow old together

That will change. It is inevitable. You're very young. You have lots of living and changing to do, and you will.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:32 PM
 
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I believe in Love and long term relationships . Marriage to me is nothing but a social convention, a piece of paper. It makes a lot of people feel more secure for some obscure reasons but apart from financial advantages I do not personally see why marriage is superior in any way to being in a loving, stable relationship.


I was with my now husband for over 20 years before we tied the knot and I genuinely do not feel any different. Our relationship is no better ( or worse). We had a good thing before , and we still do.

Marriage will not make a defective relationship work IMO. Being married was ( and is ) more important to Hubby than it is to me and to be honest I would have quite happily carried on "living in sin" had it not been important to him and for the aforesaid financial benefits ( such as "next of kin" rights , and the rights to his pension - apparently being with someone you love for over 20 years is not as "worthy" as getting married in Vegas after a drunken one night stand when it comes to the law. I find that grossly offensive personally ).

I am not against marriage but I do not see how it improves anything , in terms of love and emotional involvement. Most people I know who are still together after years and years did not get married for quite a while . Either you are a perfect "fit" with your SO or you are not. That piece of paper will not square anything in my opinion.

Marriage is important to many people and I respect that , to me though it is no indicator of happiness or commitment.

I was deeply committed to now Hubby from about a month in our relationship and both of us were for all intents and purposed married in our eyes in most respects.

Love is what matters. With or without that bit of paper. You are nothing without it .
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:40 PM
 
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I'm not attracted to old people and can't imagine myself ever being attracted to old people (even when I'm old).

That's one of the reasons I'm never getting married...I have no desire to grow old with someone

My mom's explanation for why my grandparents stay married: they want to grow old together
Then you'd better make sure you're rich and stay rich. The only way you as a 60 or 70 year old are going to be attractive to 20 or 30 year olds is if you have plenty of money.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:59 PM
 
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That will change. It is inevitable. You're very young. You have lots of living and changing to do, and you will.
Hugh Hefner is 84 and he's not attracted to old people
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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Then you'd better make sure you're rich and stay rich. The only way you as a 60 or 70 year old are going to be attractive to 20 or 30 year olds is if you have plenty of money.
I never said they're going to be attracted to me. I just said I'm going to be attracted to them.

I'm happily single
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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Hugh Hefner is 84 and he's not attracted to old people
But also he needs a lot of viagra to stay attracted to those young bimbos that surround him.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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Hugh Hefner is 84 and he's not attracted to old people
Hugh Hefner does what he does to keep up his image to help sell his magazine. You cannot possibly believe he is actually having sex with women 1/4th of his age. It is a fantasy for men to believe that it could be them. His company wants men to also buy his magazine believing that women that look like the ones in Playboy would give them the time of day. The thought of Hugh Hefner's body is enough to make me vomit in my mouth...ewwwww.
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