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Old 03-19-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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Once again, you don't understand the thing you're trying so hard to bash. Real game and good game isn't about being or pretending to be something you're not. It's about developing and displaying the traits that make men attractive to women.
So.

You "display" the traits that make men attractive to women.

That's only superficial.

Then after that what have you got?

Because you've put all your energy in being the "image", unfortunately, there's rarely any substance to support the "facade" and that's why game doesn't work.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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So.

You "display" the traits that make men attractive to women.

That's only superficial.
No ****. The things that spark initial attraction between the sexes is universally superficial. Not exactly an earth shattering conclusion there.

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Then after that what have you got?
I'd say that's pretty dependent on the person, wouldn't you?

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Because you've put all your energy in being the "image", unfortunately, there's rarely any substance to support the "facade" and that's why game doesn't work.
Again, you don't have the faintest clue what you're talking about. Having true game isn't about creating some image. It's about improving yourself and putting your best foot forward. Don't believe me? See another excerpt from the same article I mentioned earlier.

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ONE IMPORTANT THING: Confidence without ability is little more than arrogant pomposity. I am not advocating that you go out and try and do what I do, unless you have my game. It is important that you be yourself, that you do what comes natural for you, that you donít step onto a court that you donít have the game to play on. I used to play b-ball at these outdoor courts, where there were like four courts lined up in a row. Court 1 was the best players, Court 4 were the complete scrubs, and 2 and 3 there were somewhere in between. I started on Court 4, because I wasnít good enough for 1, 2, or 3. Even though I was confident in myself, I knew my limits and I understood who I was, which at that point was a crappy basketball player. I eventually became a regular on Court 1, but it took time and dedication.

At itís core, confidence comes from the internal belief that you can accomplish the task at hand, so in some ways, this is a Catch 22 for guys without game. How can you get confidence with having game? Trial and error. Follow my instructions below, and go out and talk to women and you will get better, believe in yourself more, and thereby get even better. Nothing helps you improve like a positive feedback loop.
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:53 AM
 
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I think everyone develops "game" to attract members of the opposite sex. Most of us do this naturally, without the awkward self consciousness that those who subscribe to game theory display. You can hate them for it, but this is just what they do... they are, after all, geeks. This is how geeks work.

You and I want to learn how to dance, so we get out on the floor and make a fool out of ourselves for awhile, laugh it off and eventually do "ok." Geeks buy dance manuals, watch videos, practice in basements or garages... somewhere out of sight... until they can dance like Napolean Dynamite. It's their way. It has something to do with not wanting to look foolish or be humilated... I think hyper social sensitivity is what causes geekdom. Anyhow, the PUA community is what geeks look like when they go a-courtin'. Hate them for it if you want, but the world needs scientists too. More of this will lead to more geek breeding, and thier genes are good to have in the mix.
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:10 AM
 
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I think everyone develops "game" to attract members of the opposite sex. Most of us do this naturally, without the awkward self consciousness that those who subscribe to game theory display. You can hate them for it, but this is just what they do... they are, after all, geeks. This is how geeks work.

You and I want to learn how to dance, so we get out on the floor and make a fool out of ourselves for awhile, laugh it off and eventually do "ok." Geeks buy dance manuals, watch videos, practice in basements or garages... somewhere out of sight... until they can dance like Napolean Dynamite. It's their way. It has something to do with not wanting to look foolish or be humilated... I think hyper social sensitivity is what causes geekdom. Anyhow, the PUA community is what geeks look like when they go a-courtin'. Hate them for it if you want, but the world needs scientists too. More of this will lead to more geek breeding, and thier genes are good to have in the mix.
Huh, I'd be interested in looking at the demographics of PUAs, then. The PUAs I've come across on line are certainly not scientists, or educated in the natural sciences. If anything, these guys are clearly un/undereducated IRT the sciences with all the pop-evo-pysch that comprises PUA rhetoric. Further, social ineptness correlating with folk in the sciences is a stereotype I don't buy into. Ime, it's quite the opposite.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: The United States of Amnesia
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Default Life is a Game

Human dynamics have changed over the years due to the mass media, technology and social changes (women earning as much as men, sometimes having better jobs than men and attaining higher education degrees than men). Women are conditioned more than men on the subtitles of dating and mating via magazines, “chick” TV shows and movies. They are told what to look for in a prospective mate, how to attract, the signs to look for, etc. On the other hand, men only have porn, men magazines (which on the most part are soft-core porn: Maxim, FHM, etc.), other men (the blind leading the blind in most cases) to solve the riddle of women. Women have an upper hand when it comes to dating and sex. Women pick their prospective mate; men have to (fight over with other males (not physically well sometimes not), attract, seduce, etc) their prospective mate. As to what attracts a woman to a man, there is no real answer to that question. Attraction will vary from person to person. It will also depend on how conditioned the woman was during her upbringing. Are there certain qualities that woman look for in a man? Yes, I read countless of articles and they list the usual qualities. I heard a lot of female friend say they look for these same qualities but they usually hook up or date a guy that is the opposite of these “qualities”.

The reason why pick up artists or game books have become so popular is that they give men the help that they needed when growing up. We live in a superficial society. A corporation tells society what is popular, how to dress, how to mate, how to act, what a man or woman should be like, etc. Life is a game so don’t take it seriously and have fun!
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Because the skeptics and doubters have no game.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Tampa, Florida
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I think everyone develops "game" to attract members of the opposite sex. Most of us do this naturally, without the awkward self consciousness that those who subscribe to game theory display. You can hate them for it, but this is just what they do... they are, after all, geeks. This is how geeks work.

You and I want to learn how to dance, so we get out on the floor and make a fool out of ourselves for awhile, laugh it off and eventually do "ok." Geeks buy dance manuals, watch videos, practice in basements or garages... somewhere out of sight... until they can dance like Napolean Dynamite. It's their way. It has something to do with not wanting to look foolish or be humilated... I think hyper social sensitivity is what causes geekdom. Anyhow, the PUA community is what geeks look like when they go a-courtin'. Hate them for it if you want, but the world needs scientists too. More of this will lead to more geek breeding, and thier genes are good to have in the mix.
Good post. Especially important is the part about getting out there and trying. All the studying and knowledge does no good if you never use it
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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Huh, I'd be interested in looking at the demographics of PUAs, then. The PUAs I've come across on line are certainly not scientists, or educated in the natural sciences. If anything, these guys are clearly un/undereducated IRT the sciences with all the pop-evo-pysch that comprises PUA rhetoric. Further, social ineptness correlating with folk in the sciences is a stereotype I don't buy into. Ime, it's quite the opposite.
B, I'm not trying to imply that PUAs are scientists... I'm saying that they are geeks. Geeks have various degrees of intelligence. A highly intelligent geek is going to be a scientist. A less intelligent one is going to be a comic book aficionado or something along those lines. I see game theory as a geek approach to dating.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: World of opportunity
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Human dynamics have changed over the years due to the mass media, technology and social changes (women earning as much as men, sometimes having better jobs than men and attaining higher education degrees than men). Women are conditioned more than men on the subtitles of dating and mating via magazines, “chick” TV shows and movies. They are told what to look for in a prospective mate, how to attract, the signs to look for, etc. On the other hand, men only have porn, men magazines (which on the most part are soft-core porn: Maxim, FHM, etc.), other men (the blind leading the blind in most cases) to solve the riddle of women. Women have an upper hand when it comes to dating and sex. Women pick their prospective mate; men have to (fight over with other males (not physically well sometimes not), attract, seduce, etc) their prospective mate. As to what attracts a woman to a man, there is no real answer to that question. Attraction will vary from person to person. It will also depend on how conditioned the woman was during her upbringing. Are there certain qualities that woman look for in a man? Yes, I read countless of articles and they list the usual qualities. I heard a lot of female friend say they look for these same qualities but they usually hook up or date a guy that is the opposite of these “qualities”.

The reason why pick up artists or game books have become so popular is that they give men the help that they needed when growing up. We live in a superficial society. A corporation tells society what is popular, how to dress, how to mate, how to act, what a man or woman should be like, etc. Life is a game so don’t take it seriously and have fun!
Basically its a monkey see monkey do society. And "Life is a game" is true. People do take it too seriously at times when it comes to certain things. I always say that if you lose at one thing you will always have a chance of winning with the next (in terms of women)
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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My PS2 broke so my game don't work.

Ah well, at least I got the PSP.
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