I don't find women around my age attractive (early 40s) (girlfriend, marriage)

[ElysianEagle]

OP: the reason you don't find women your age attractive is that for the most part, they're not. most women start to fade in the looks department from the age of 25 onwards. some lucky few (roughly 5 - 10%) can hold on to remnants of their youthful beauty into their early 30s, but by around 32 - 33 (at the most) they're pretty much done for. perhaps 1 out of a 1000 might look do-able into her 40s.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by ElysianEagle

OP: the reason you don't find women your age attractive is that for the most part, they're not. most women start to fade in the looks department from the age of 25 onwards. some lucky few (roughly 5 - 10%) can hold on to remnants of their youthful beauty into their early 30s, but by around 32 - 33 (at the most) they're pretty much done for. perhaps 1 out of a 1000 might look do-able into her 40s.

Oh, it's the lucky few. Hmmm hmmm, yea. And that's a bonafide stat put forth by the Internet moron brigade attempting to lower the IQ of online readers one point at a time. Really, very exciting stuff you have going on here.

[Dewdrop93]

I'm 34 and I'm way ugly already. I mean - dogs run from my very presence. It's really sad. I was really hot say - 2 years ago but now I am absolutely heinous. All of my friends my age are all hideous as well. I've already suggested to my husband that he turn me in for a newer model. He's thinking about it. I mean, it's hard for him - looking at me and wanting to throw up. It's really hurt our sex life.

This thread is ridiculous. So what - you don't like women your own age. Honestly - who cares? And to be even more honest - most of my male friends that like younger women like them because of the maturity level. They are more immature men and like immature women. For the record - yes, I'm 34. I still get carded. A lot. If you didn't know how old I was - you would never guess it. I think this is true for more and more women these days. But if someone doesn't like women their own age - like I said - who cares?

[ElysianEagle]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

Oh, it's the lucky few. Hmmm hmmm, yea. And that's a bonafide stat put forth by the Internet moron brigade attempting to lower the IQ of online readers one point at a time. Really, very exciting stuff you have going on here.

prove me wrong then, i challenge you.

[*Sweetkisses*]

Originally Posted by saucywench

I don't find women around my age attractive (early 40s)


Yes, the female of the species tends to get a little long of tooth by our mid-thirties, or so.


Woof!

This post has me LOL!!!!!

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by ElysianEagle

prove me wrong then, i challenge you.

Prove you wrong that 1) the only views that matter of what constitutes beauty is those of asshats? Common sense snuffs that hypothesis. Really, you cannot be so self-involved and oblivious to really think your pov extends past your own nose. Or, 2) prove that your goal is to induce stupidity for CD readers? Your last post in this thread is exhibit A.

To be serious, remember, you and your pov/tastes are not the rubric for measurement, tho, I have no idea how you think you can objectively measure beauty (above/below magical 25) with some sense of value resulting. What will you use? Number of sexual partners, solid relationships, a resulting happy marriage? I have no doubt that millions of men the world over find their 30 something partners incredibly sexy, despite the opinions of wanting, seeking, and failing men online the world over.

[Shooting Stars]

Originally Posted by Dewdrop93

For the record - yes, I'm 34. I still get carded. A lot. If you didn't know how old I was - you would never guess it. I think this is true for more and more women these days. But if someone doesn't like women their own age - like I said - who cares?

I was carded well into my forties also. One time I went in to buy wine and the owner said he didn't believe the birth date on my license.

No surgery, no botox, no hair coloring. I think some of these guys must live in places with some very unattractive women to be making such blanket statements about women losing it after 35.

Genetics and sun exposure determines a lot of how you will age.

[ElysianEagle]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

To be serious, remember, you and your pov/tastes are not the rubric for measurement,

Neither is yours.

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

I have no idea how you think you can objectively measure beauty (above/below magical 25) with some sense of value resulting.

At least one study puts the number at which a woman's attractiveness peaks at 31 - not far from my number of 25, and certainly a good deal below the OP's age. Also, I've met very, very few men (even guys in their 40s) who actually believed women in that age range were even attractive, let alone in the same league as younger women (20s to maybe early 30s). I'll grant, however, that this is purely anecdotal.

On what basis, then, would you claim otherwise? Surely you can't argue that a woman should be considered attractive in general merely because she "feels" that she is? (More power to her, but remember, we're talking about attractiveness as judged by the opposite sex in this thread).

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

What will you use? Number of sexual partners, solid relationships, a resulting happy marriage?

You're making this more complex than it needs to be. A simple, measurable metric would be the number of men that consistently pick 40 yr old women over, say, 21 yr old women.

As for your statement about millions of men finding their 30-something wives attractive - for every such man there is at least one, and probably many more, that probably fantasize about younger women, college co-eds or what have you. What's your point? Oh wait...

[supermanpansy]

Originally Posted by ElysianEagle

Neither is yours.



At least one study puts the number at which a woman's attractiveness peaks at 31 - not far from my number of 25, and certainly a good deal below the OP's age. Also, I've met very, very few men (even guys in their 40s) who actually believed women in that age range were even attractive, let alone in the same league as younger women (20s to maybe early 30s). I'll grant, however, that this is purely anecdotal.

On what basis, then, would you claim otherwise? Surely you can't argue that a woman should be considered attractive in general merely because she "feels" that she is? (More power to her, but remember, we're talking about attractiveness as judged by the opposite sex in this thread).



You're making this more complex than it needs to be. A simple, measurable metric would be the number of men that consistently pick 40 yr old women over, say, 21 yr old women.

As for your statement about millions of men finding their 30-something wives attractive - for every such man there is at least one, and probably many more, that probably fantasize about younger women, college co-eds or what have you. What's your point? Oh wait...

25, Wow dude how old are you? I am thirty six (male) and look like I am twenty five. There are plenty of sexy older women. I just saw one the other night that was 44 and looking smoking hot. This is coming from a picky guy too. She was flirting with me and if I wasn't with someone I would definately be responding. Nice body. Great smile, face, etc. She eats right, dances and takes care of herself. You got to get rid of that thought. When you get older, you will be ok with older women (hopefully). Older women are great for a few reasons. They've been there. There not so much into games. They know what they like. Their mature and know how to ask for what they want. And they are better in bed than in their younger years. Don't you know that most womens labido's are like wine, get better with age. Most girls in their 20's don't like sex like a girl in their forties.

Plus their not little stringy chicken heads wearing the newest fad, talking slang and acting like a fool. You can take them out without them embarrissing you.

But to each his own. I don't personally care who likes what but to say that there aren't any good looking women in their forties is insane. To say the cut off is 25 is incredibly insane. Go to a big city and you will see them all over the place. Thirty is the new twenty and forty is the new thirty. Many women take better care of themselves today. Aint nothing wrong with a little imperfection either. I prefer a women to have some faults. Perfectin is over-rated. Nobody is going to stay young forever. What will you do with your 25 year old in five years. You should be looking more on the inside than the outside. Everyones looks fade, but what would you rather be left with. A chick who was once hot and mean and now just mean. Or a girl who has some personality and cares for you?

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by ElysianEagle

Neither is yours.

I'm not the one making emphatic statements. You are. You are the one making statements as if they are facts, have merit, etc. I don't come to CD and say men need to be this or that height. Men need to be this or that color. Men to need to have this or that size ****. Through experience I know that preferences vary. Actually, due to the fact that I simply have a brain I know preferences vary. lol

At least one study puts the number at which a woman's attractiveness peaks at 31 - not far from my number of 25,

Peaks at 31, which is far enough from 25. So, off the bat you're proving yourself wrong. What's noted below matters offline, ime.

and certainly a good deal below the OP's age. Also, I've met very, very few men (even guys in their 40s) who actually believed women in that age range were even attractive, let alone in the same league as younger women (20s to maybe early 30s). I'll grant, however, that this is purely anecdotal.

And it being anecdotal really matters here.

On what basis, then, would you claim otherwise? Surely you can't argue that a woman should be considered attractive in general merely because she "feels" that she is? (More power to her, but remember, we're talking about attractiveness as judged by the opposite sex in this thread).

Well, I don't think the opposite sex here is one unifying voice to start. I don't think the tastes of an unattractive male who has issues with the opposite sex and himself is, again, the rubric for anything. I think men's taste will vary greatly depending on a host of variables, their own attractiveness, experiences, education, and personality. I also don't know if anyone should feel attractive about themselves without the consensus of others. It's not something I've considered, but who knows.

Hmmm, I know there's the argument that most people tend to think of themselves as more attractive than they actually are. And more smart, funny, etc. I guess it doesn't really matter since it seems to be an across the board phenomenon with humans. So, however we consider ourselves is irrelevant. It matters what others think, but not all opinions are of the same value and how we measure it is up for debate.

For example, you have an opinion. Then some other guy has a differing opinion. Certainly, one trumps the other, but on what basis?

You're making this more complex than it needs to be. A simple, measurable metric would be the number of men that consistently pick 40 yr old women over, say, 21 yr old women.

I'm not sure how I'm complicating anything when you're offering the same measuring stick. It can only be measured in so many ways...sex, relationships, some kind of interaction. Although, it's quite funny how you've gone from 25 to 32 and now to 40 LOL. I can say this, my 70 year old mother has had more luck (in her age bracket of course) than so many of you poor guys. You'll are needing to start threads, go online, figure it out. All she has to do is go ball room dancing and the other seniors are lining up.

As for your statement about millions of men finding their 30-something wives attractive - for every such man there is at least one, and probably many more, that probably fantasize about younger women, college co-eds or what have you. What's your point? Oh wait...

Well, you're in for a rude awakening if you don't think older married women aren't admiring young, buff 20 year olds with their smooth, tight skin; muscles, and all around freshness.That's just the way of it. And then age doesn't even matter. There are a lot of beautiful people out there and there's nothing wrong with innocent swooning (imo). There is no reason to be threatened by it.

But, again, attraction is multi-dimensional. If youth were the only component then it wouldn't matter that you're an unattractive 20-something, that you're too tall or short, fat or thin, that you aren't proportioned symmetrically, or that you aren't particularly smart, or outgoing, athletic, stylish, or clever. You should know this better than most. As with any attribute contributing to attractiveness, youth is just one factor that can be taken or left depending on the whole picture.