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Old 04-07-2011, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I've never been naturally aggressive with women. When I like a girl my first instinct is to approach her in a friendly way. Strike up a conversation and get to know her before I start talking romance or even sex. (Believe it or not.) Some ladies appreciate that but many automatically throw me into the friends zone never to recover. Many times the guy with bad intentions but is willing to dive right into his seduction both guns a-blazing gets the girl. No guts no glory. But it feels funny for me to flirt with a girl I barely know. What are y'all's thought on that?
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, I think my loss of respect for you would be pretending to be my friend and really get to know me while you secretly have romantic intentions. I don't think that's an aggressive issue. It's a false pretense issue.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:42 PM
 
Location: War World!
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Some women just simply never know what they want.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:49 PM
 
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The fact that you approach a girl shows you are somewhat aggressive. Most guys I go out with do this kind of approach but also ask me out. That might be your problem. She needs to know what your motives are and a girl doesn't respect a guy who keeps them hidden. Sometimes I have felt betrayed by a guy pretending to be a friend when he wanted more. He really lost respect in my eyes.

On the other hand, I don't like super-aggressive guys (wanna fock? 2 minutes of talking and grabbing me, asking me out). Not many women do.

The best is a guy with a friendly, flirty (maybe funny) approach. BUT, ask her out before you part ways and not a 'hang out' thing. A real date. It's unusual to get that now.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Well, I think my loss of respect for you would be pretending to be my friend and really get to know me while you secretly have romantic intentions. I don't think that's an aggressive issue. It's a false pretense issue.
It's not a false pretense. I work in steps. I won't chase a total stranger across the street and say I want to get with her. She could be some psycho Fatal Attraction chick or someone I can't really connect with. I just try to take enough time to get a feel for a woman's personality. (What many women claim they wish men paid more attention to). Plus I'm just not a flirtatious guy at first. It's not in my nature with a woman I don't fell comfortable with.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:53 PM
 
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Well, I think my loss of respect for you would be pretending to be my friend and really get to know me while you secretly have romantic intentions. I don't think that's an aggressive issue. It's a false pretense issue.
What?? I do not understand that reaction. Women on here constantly tell a man to try being friends with girls first and see where it goes. Why would you lose respect if he wasnt trying to get in your pants initially?
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:58 PM
 
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I've never been naturally aggressive with women. When I like a girl my first instinct is to approach her in a friendly way. Strike up a conversation and get to know her before I start talking romance or even sex. (Believe it or not.) Some ladies appreciate that but many automatically throw me into the friends zone never to recover. Many times the guy with bad intentions but is willing to dive right into his seduction both guns a-blazing gets the girl. No guts no glory. But it feels funny for me to flirt with a girl I barely know. What are y'all's thought on that?

Women are very smart. They HATE when a guy tries to act just as friends, when their real goal is to split the uprights. The bad guy who just wants sex is not bad intentioned, like you described... women want sex too. Sex is not a bad thing. The bad guy is being honest and letting the woman know, if she's not going to be putting out soon, he is off to live his life. The nice guy doesn't live his life, he waits around for the woman... women hate that.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Okay maybe I need to clarify...I'm not saying using a friendly ACT as a deceptive ploy to get SEX!! I don't move that fast because I don't operate that fast. If a woman tried to throw romance or sex at me when I first met her I would be VERY VERY concerned that she may have clingy tendencies. I like to get to know what I am getting myself into. Get a number, maybe go hang and all and see what happens. Plus even when I am physically attracted to a woman I am an authentic geek!!! If I tried to approach a woman like some kinda Don Juan I would stammer stutter and THEN she will read fakery because I am not being myself!!
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:14 AM
 
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Women are very smart. They HATE when a guy tries to act just as friends, when their real goal is to split the uprights. The bad guy who just wants sex is not bad intentioned, like you described... women want sex too. Sex is not a bad thing. The bad guy is being honest and letting the woman know, if she's not going to be putting out soon, he is off to live his life. The nice guy doesn't live his life, he waits around for the woman... women hate that.
I dont disagree with this, BUT its not the message that women seem to convey.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:19 AM
 
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Okay maybe I need to clarify...I'm not saying using a friendly ACT as a deceptive ploy to get SEX!! I don't move that fast because I don't operate that fast. If a woman tried to throw romance or sex at me when I first met her I would be VERY VERY concerned that she may have clingy tendencies. I like to get to know what I am getting myself into. Get a number, maybe go hang and all and see what happens. Plus even when I am physically attracted to a woman I am an authentic geek!!! If I tried to approach a woman like some kinda Don Juan I would stammer stutter and THEN she will read fakery because I am not being myself!!
You need to move faster than your usual pace.
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