Do you approve of making out before marriage? (Christian, girl, single)
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By "making out" I mean doing something with the intention to arouse one's partner.
I personally put my beliefs in accordance with those of the Catholic Church: that all deliberate sexual arousal ultimately serves the ends of procreation and spousal unity, and hence is to be saved for marriage
I find that proposition very difficult to except, but I am a faithful Catholic so I assent anyway.
What is your view?
I agree with tvdxer and MoonPrincess
ETA: I also agree that marriage should (ideally) be used for procreation, but not necessarily exclusively to the exclusion of all else. Meaning that the fact that a husband and wife are wed together in holy matrinomy should in theory make pretty much make physical relations together OK.
Last edited by Phoenix2017; 06-08-2011 at 10:56 AM..
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By "making out" I mean doing something with the intention to arouse one's partner.
I personally put my beliefs in accordance with those of the Catholic Church: that all deliberate sexual arousal ultimately serves the ends of procreation and spousal unity, and hence is to be saved for marriage
I find that proposition very difficult to except, but I am a faithful Catholic so I assent anyway.
What is your view?
In 12 years of Catholic school from 1972 to 1984--more conservative times than now--NEVER had I heard anything like this, not even in lectures about the "near occasion of sin."
I realize that there's a wide variety of people who post on this forum whose views on relationships are all over the map but this question took me by surprise. I don't want to mock the OP and I understand that religious teachings are taken very seriously by many people but in this day and age the question sounds like something you would have heard a century ago. I can't even imagine a couple getting married whose first kiss was on their wedding day. I am certain that the overwhelming majority of even the most religious people in our society have kissed and hugged, held hands, and that sort of thing even if they didn't have sex. There's nothing in the Bible or any religious text that I'm aware of that says "Thou shalt not kiss".
I realize that there's a wide variety of people who post on this forum whose views on relationships are all over the map but this question took me by surprise. I don't want to mock the OP and I understand that religious teachings are taken very seriously by many people but in this day and age the question sounds like something you would have heard a century ago. I can't even imagine a couple getting married whose first kiss was on their wedding day. I am certain that the overwhelming majority of even the most religious people in our society have kissed and hugged, held hands, and that sort of thing even if they didn't have sex. There's nothing in the Bible or any religious text that I'm aware of that says "Thou shalt not kiss".
It sounds like the OP's parents are more at fault for the OP's repressed way of thinking than any dogma coming from the Vatican.
And while most people in society have kissed before marriage, there are some religions that forbid dancing unless it's some kind of Jesus step. I have born again cousins like that.
Their wedding was so much fun, let me tell you. No booze, no real dancing, and when my sister broke a nail and said, "aw, damn" the entire table broke into prayer.
By "making out" I mean doing something with the intention to arouse one's partner.
I personally put my beliefs in accordance with those of the Catholic Church: that all deliberate sexual arousal ultimately serves the ends of procreation and spousal unity, and hence is to be saved for marriage
I find that proposition very difficult to except, but I am a faithful Catholic so I assent anyway.
I believe in pleasing my partner and myself. As long as no one is hurt, it's all good. Sex is one of life's great pleasures to share with a lover.
I respect your viewpoint and understand the religious imperative that grounds your belief. If it works for you, great. I was married for decades to a man who didn't like sex and didn't want me. I know what it's like to do without. I probably hold a record of some kind for decades without sex. Probably the only people who could top me are some priests and nuns.
After what I've been through, I would never marry someone without knowing FOR SURE they were sexual and attracted to me.
By "making out" I mean doing something with the intention to arouse one's partner.
This is kind of a bizarre definition of "making out," though. By this definition a striptease or naughty email would fall under the umbrella of "making out." Most people would consider kissing and touching with most of your clothes on to be making out, right?
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