I just want an honest women. What about you?

[Veyron]

Originally Posted by crisan

Are you concerned that if she can fool her baby's father, then she can fool you?

It was a one time thing.

[crisan]

Originally Posted by Veyron

It was a one time thing.

You seem to be very forgiving. That is not easy but often necessary when dealing with people. People are not perfect. They will make mistakes. What you may want to look out for is not an honest, nice, loyal woman but one who can learn from her mistakes and who won't hold your mistakes against you. Learning from one's own mistakes leads to honesty, humbleness, and loyalty to oneself. Once a woman can do this for herself, she can be this way with you.

[Hans63]

Originally Posted by Veyron

It's a new age and women are more promiscuous then ever. It seems alot of women are players now.

Originally Posted by miamisweetheart

Because men are, do you know how hard it is to find an honest man?

It's not that hard. Here's a relevant quote from the "European Women" thread:

Originally Posted by underthesun7

At 26, about to graduate from a major University with a B.S in Computer Science, good looking, nice and caring, yet I still have problems finding a Women for a serious relationship here in the States. This is something my European friends said would never happen there.

I had the same experience over 20 years ago. I see that things haven't changed. Women put blinders on and they don't even see these guys. (Men do similar things, but that doesn't make my point less true.)

But it seems that this thread has gone off on various tangents. The OP talks about bad apples (girls) and wants to find some good ones. Then people sidetrack the discussion to the fact that there are also bad bananas (guys), as if that helps to address the bad apple problem. It doesn't. Then some people get hung up on the OP's stories about situations he's observed, or was part of, and how that makes him a bad banana, or whether to forgive someone for being a bad apple, even though none of this is relevant to the issue that the OP presented.

So in order to bring things back to the OP's question, let me quote it here and answer it:

Originally Posted by Veyron

The question I have for the guys is; if you had your choice between having one good girl who isn't the best looking women in the world but she is genuinely a good person vs 100s of hot babes but there witches at heart which dating life would you choose?

If by "dating life" you mean some temporary period before "settling down", I might prefer the hot babes scenario during that phase. (Just following the "sow one's wild oats before settling down" philosophy. A lot of the married guys will advise against that, but it's what they did, and they're basically saying "do what I say, not what I did". So take what they say with a grain of salt.)

If you mean as a permanent situation, I might prefer the one good girl scenario. But there might be a complication if there is no sexual chemistry with her. Not wanting to be a monk, if the only other option is the hot babes scenario, then I might have to go with that. And if the hot babes are too witchy to be friends with, then I'd just have to find other people to be friends with.

I'm not sure why the "one good girl" is hard to find, but I'm guessing that there is a female equivalent of the Madonna/VVhore complex, perhaps we can call it the Paycheck/Pornstar complex. There are women in a casual phase who want Mr. Studly Steroid, and then get more practical and look for Mr. Paycheck Provider. I think this is part of the "Diva era" mentioned in the original post, which seems to be centered mainly in the U.S. and perhaps other English-speaking countries.

This brings us back to the "European Women" thread. I think you might benefit from broadening your horizons and looking overseas. Other than Europeans, I've met people from Taiwan who were very nice and genuine.

My two cents, your mileage may vary.

[Veyron]

Originally Posted by Hans63

It's not that hard. Here's a relevant quote from the "European Women" thread:



I had the same experience over 20 years ago. I see that things haven't changed. Women put blinders on and they don't even see these guys. (Men do similar things, but that doesn't make my point less true.)

But it seems that this thread has gone off on various tangents. The OP talks about bad apples (girls) and wants to find some good ones. Then people sidetrack the discussion to the fact that there are also bad bananas (guys), as if that helps to address the bad apple problem. It doesn't. Then some people get hung up on the OP's stories about situations he's observed, or was part of, and how that makes him a bad banana, or whether to forgive someone for being a bad apple, even though none of this is relevant to the issue that the OP presented.

So in order to bring things back to the OP's question, let me quote it here and answer it:



If by "dating life" you mean some temporary period before "settling down", I might prefer the hot babes scenario during that phase. (Just following the "sow one's wild oats before settling down" philosophy. A lot of the married guys will advise against that, but it's what they did, and they're basically saying "do what I say, not what I did". So take what they say with a grain of salt.)

If you mean as a permanent situation, I might prefer the one good girl scenario. But there might be a complication if there is no sexual chemistry with her. Not wanting to be a monk, if the only other option is the hot babes scenario, then I might have to go with that. And if the hot babes are too witchy to be friends with, then I'd just have to find other people to be friends with.

I'm not sure why the "one good girl" is hard to find, but I'm guessing that there is a female equivalent of the Madonna/VVhore complex, perhaps we can call it the Paycheck/Pornstar complex. There are women in a casual phase who want Mr. Studly Steroid, and then get more practical and look for Mr. Paycheck Provider. I think this is part of the "Diva era" mentioned in the original post, which seems to be centered mainly in the U.S. and perhaps other English-speaking countries.

This brings us back to the "European Women" thread. I think you might benefit from broadening your horizons and looking overseas. Other than Europeans, I've met people from Taiwan who were very nice and genuine.

My two cents, your mileage may vary.

Nice answer