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Or maybe you could learn about the degrading words you use and treat other people, even if they are different from you, with consideration. Unlike what others here think, the truth is a person is a person regardless of gender identity. That's what Jesus would have done, by the way. It is easy to say one follows the golden rule but actually following takes effort and thoughtfulness.
poletop: Trannies have historically not been tolerated very well, if I remember correctly, and for good reason, IMO -- feel free to make of that what you will
Just b/c someone feels they have a license to engage in blatant socially-deviant behavior, and want sympathy and understanding for it at the same time, doesn't make it inherently right or justifiable.
There are just some times, when we as a society have to say "No -- that behavior is simply not gonna be tolerated."
Such a thing shouldn't be left for the other person to find out. It should be voluntarily revealed since not revealing it deprives the other person of his right to make an informed decision.
Oh boo hoo, no matter what you say or how you phrase it, someone somewhere is going to get offended. I'm pretty sure "Have a nice day!" will **** someone off.
I for one believe that a transgendered person is going to be smart enough to figure out a little thing called "context" and realize that in that instance, no one was actually attempting to be degrading to them.
If you don't think that transgendered people are smart enough to do that, well then, that's quite degrading...
PS: this thread should probably be stickied and never allowed to come down
What I said is true. Many transgender people find the word tranny offensive the way the word *** is offensive or **** is. OP might not have known that and that's ok because ignorance can be solved with knowledge but the attitude of not caring about using slurs directly at other people based on what they are is a problem. There is a difference between being frank and being an a-hole. Being frank would be saying Noel Coward was gay, being a jerk would be calling him a ***. Get the difference?
poletop: Trannies have historically not been tolerated very well, if I remember correctly, and for good reason, IMO -- feel free to make of that what you will
Just b/c someone feels they have a license to engage in blatant socially-deviant behavior, and want sympathy and understanding for it at the same time, doesn't make it inherently right or justifiable.
There are just some times, when we as a society have to say "No -- that behavior is simply not gonna be tolerated."
Yeah, poletop. You act like we actually said something hateful towards trannies like "they should die" or "they need to go to hell." now that would be intolerant and hateful. Simply referring to them as trannies is nothing hateful. And as Knight2009 pointed out, our society for the most part simply does not accept transexuals very well. That's not likely going to change either.
But to answer the OP, I'd probably leave, throw up, and scrub myself when I get home!
Many transgender people find the word tranny offensive the way the word *** is offensive or **** is.
And many do not. Where does that leave us?
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OP might not have known that and that's ok because ignorance can be solved with knowledge but the attitude of not caring about using slurs directly at other people based on what they are is a problem. There is a difference between being frank and being an a-hole. Being frank would be saying Noel Coward was gay, being a jerk would be calling him a ***. Get the difference?
Ah, once again the awesome power of words and their various interpretations!
Personally, I think if you are secure in what you are you won't be offended by what others call you.
Yeah, poletop. You act like we actually said something hateful towards trannies like "they should die" or "they need to go to hell." now that would be intolerant and hateful. Simply referring to them as trannies is nothing hateful. And as Knight2009 pointed out, our society for the most part simply does not accept transexuals very well. That's not likely going to change either.
But to answer the OP, I'd probably leave, throw up, and scrub myself when I get home!
Just because you weren't hateful doesn't mean you weren't willfully breaking the Golden Rule, which is hypocritical for someone who constantly brings up her Christian beliefs. That was my point. If you really do not care about using tact or courtesy about transgender people, then fine, just be honest that you are not really following the idea of treating others with respect or well. If a guy referred to women as ******* instead of the word women, I am guessing you might not like that treatment even if the guy was not calling for death to all women.
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