Who should pay for dinner on the first date? (conversation, interested, personal)
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I've been thinking about the statement another poster made (2mares?) about men wanting women more than women wanting men... and that's why men ask out women more often. I don't know if that's true or not, but it appears to be. The reality is that women are often so busy fending off advances from men, there's really no need for her to be the initiator.
But I also think men ask out women more often because men make very quick decisions about whom they find attractive. Women are not as likely to make snap decisions about a man. She usually has to get to know him , get a sense of who he is, listen to him speak, hear him laugh, smell him, etc. before determining whether or not she's attracted to him.
But I also think men ask out women more often because men make very quick decisions about whom they find attractive. Women are not as likely to make snap decisions about a man. She usually has to get to know him , get a sense of who he is, listen to him speak, hear him laugh, smell him, etc. before determining whether or not she's attracted to him.
Seems like that'd make women more likely to ask out men. Unless they go around smelling random guys. Which reminds me of the time I got licked at a concert...
But, there is always this
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The reality is that women are often so busy fending off advances from men
A gentleman pays, no dollar value can be placed on the pleasure of being in the company of a good woman. So I learned in my youth, its what I taught my boys, I have never regretted it. Go ahead and crucify me.
A gentleman pays, no dollar value can be placed on the pleasure of being in the company of a good woman. So I learned in my youth, its what I taught my boys, I have never regretted it. Go ahead and crucify me.
A gentleman pays, no dollar value can be placed on the pleasure of being in the company of a good woman. So I learned in my youth, its what I taught my boys, I have never regretted it. Go ahead and crucify me.
Perhaps it is the dollar value that the women are placing on your company that should be called into question.
The reality is that women are often so busy fending off advances from men, there's really no need for her to be the initiator.
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Originally Posted by boodhabunny
But I also think men ask out women more often because men make very quick decisions about whom they find attractive. Women are not as likely to make snap decisions about a man. She usually has to get to know him , get a sense of who he is, listen to him speak, hear him laugh, smell him, etc. before determining whether or not she's attracted to him.
I can see that. I guess the only time I asked guys out was during my college years and it was guys I somewhat knew from class or around campus. I never just saw some hunk of meat across the way and waltzed over and asked him out. After college, marriage and divorce, I really didnt care to ever date again enough to initiate.
I've been thinking about the statement another poster made (2mares?) about men wanting women more than women wanting men... and that's why men ask out women more often. I don't know if that's true or not, but it appears to be. The reality is that women are often so busy fending off advances from men, there's really no need for her to be the initiator.
But I also think men ask out women more often because men make very quick decisions about whom they find attractive. Women are not as likely to make snap decisions about a man. She usually has to get to know him , get a sense of who he is, listen to him speak, hear him laugh, smell him, etc. before determining whether or not she's attracted to him.
Wouldn't you also agree that the type of man who makes advances on many women is the type of guy women typically don't want?
The typical attractive guy is either also receiving advances from females - and doesn't need to be the initiator or is the shy/attractive type and doesn't make the first move.
A gentleman pays, no dollar value can be placed on the pleasure of being in the company of a good woman. So I learned in my youth, its what I taught my boys, I have never regretted it. Go ahead and crucify me.
I was taught that it's common courtesy that whoever does the asking should pay. I would probably never ask a guy out on a first date, but if I did, it's only correct that I got the check or at the very least, offer- I was the one who invited after all.
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Originally Posted by lilamx
I also agree with this. But I also think that if a woman is unconventional enough to ask a guy out on a date- she should at least offer to pay. Reason being that when you invite someone, it's implied YOU have the money and you don't really know what the other person's financial situation is. You can't invite someone out and expect them to pay.
+1 I agree with these posts. I'll try to read more in a bit.
This applies to dates and other outings as well. When I invite my children's friends to go somewhere with our family: I pay. I tell my kids to tell their friends (upon invitation) that we will be paying for them. I think that it can be a very uncomfortable situation when people have to wonder who is paying.
It is similar to the fact that if I invite you to my house, I plan on feeding and entertaining you. Now, if you just drop by, you might not get a full meal.
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If I invite, then I pay.
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