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My question is - do the guys that want a girl that they can treat like a man want a girl that looks like a man and acts like a man? Perhaps all these guys that are blaming feminism and equal rights and equal pay for every bad thing in the world should actually be looking to date men instead of women? Otherwise - I really don't see what equal rights under the law has to do with dating and relationships. It's not about being equal to men - it's about being equal citizens. Love is about being who you are and finding someone you are compatible with. These are two such vastly different things - I don't understand why anyone would confuse them with each other.
I don't know, maybe? I don't agree with him. I was "just saying" what I think of his post means.
I don't know, maybe? I don't agree with him. I was "just saying" what I think of his post means.
I still don't understand how someone would connect equal rights under the law with dating and love. But then again, maybe someone who has no experience dating or being in love doesn't understand dating and being in love. I wonder if a lot of these men have been poisoned by their fathers or grandfathers or other men in their lives. It doesn't really make sense for well - adjusted men to think this way.
I still don't understand how someone would connect equal rights under the law with dating and love. But then again, maybe someone who has no experience dating or being in love doesn't understand dating and being in love. I wonder if a lot of these men have been poisoned by their fathers or grandfathers or other men in their lives. It doesn't really make sense for well - adjusted men to think this way.
You would think having experience in dating or being in love may have something to do with this? What if they had the experience yet still believes in this way?
I still don't understand how someone would connect equal rights under the law with dating and love. But then again, maybe someone who has no experience dating or being in love doesn't understand dating and being in love. I wonder if a lot of these men have been poisoned by their fathers or grandfathers or other men in their lives. It doesn't really make sense for well - adjusted men to think this way.
I don't think they have been poisoned by others. I think they are just bitter and twisted because women don't fall at their feet and worship the ground they stand on. Somehow they believe they are superior and deserve more than what life has dealt them.
It's easy to blame others for your own mistakes and inadequacies.
It's amusing to read their hate-filled rants really. I have been a feminist since I was 16 years old. I have never ever had a shortage of male suitors and admirers. I was a popular girl at school, I was always chased by guys in my 20s and as I have become older men still flirt with me, both old and young. I know darn well my feminist views have not affected my femininity, which is always one of the big whines these other guys have about feminists, that somehow we are 'masculine' and hate men.
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I don't think they have been poisoned by others. I think they are just bitter and twisted because women don't fall at their feet and worship the ground they stand on. Somehow they believe they are superior and deserve more than what life has dealt them.
It's easy to blame others for your own mistakes and inadequacies.
It's amusing to read their hate-filled rants really. I have been a feminist since I was 16 years old. I have never ever had a shortage of male suitors and admirers. I was a popular girl at school, I was always chased by guys in my 20s and as I have become older men still flirt with me, both old and young. I know darn well my feminist views have not affected my femininity, which is always one of the big whines these other guys have about feminists, that somehow we are 'masculine' and hate men.
Okay, I guess objectively questioning and disagreeing with anything is hateful in 2011? Okay I see, I get it.
Since I'm working and lazy anyway, how about some examples?
That makes two of us and its time for me to go home and immerse in the real world. I have read thru most of the posts on this thread as well as post from particular posters on different threads tho.
I still don't understand how someone would connect equal rights under the law with dating and love.
I agree 100% on that. But, I completely understand the issues men have with having to pay for dates. Frankly, when I think of it, I find it to be a bit perverted. Granted, the person asking should probably pay, but the expectation some women have after several dates, after becoming somewhat intimate with a person, to be paid blows me away. Are they children? Do they really need to be taken care of? If so, I ask what the hell is wrong with them? I just can't relate. On the flip side, I find nothing wrong with a man paying for dinner. My husband, while we were dating, often picked up our drinks. He typically did so for his friends as well. He was always concerned about tipping well and he normally got discounts at the places we went because folk knew him. I always had my money out, tho, and would demand that I buy the next round.
eta: On that end, and only in this space, can I see the confused connection between the financial progress of women and the clear selfishness of demanding that a male adult treat them as no more than a child (via constant paying).
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