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I'm not disputing that women end up in poverty, but this article does not really help that argument.
The article listed one negative that hurts women compared to men (bankruptcy rates), and then went on to post consequences based on the benefits they receive (higher utilities and expenses because they get to keep the house). In regards to legal fees, they didn't even say who actually pays those legal fees in the end or how much the men's legal fees are in comparison. They simply said women need to "settle" those amounts. I've read many "settlements" and frequently the higher earner is paying both legal fees.
In regards to lower income vs men, notice that child support isn't counted as income. One can only assume if it's not counted towards the women's income, it's also not being lowered on the men's income calculations. How can we have a fair comparison of male/female income post-divorce if that's not even counted? The man can't spend income that's not in his pocket.
And their final point was the fact that they get half of their ex-spouse's social security. I don't see how that's a negative.
Funny, they didn't even link to the data, they simply quoted a professor who saw the data.
All that being said, I don't believe in the male / female divorce arguments except for children. Outside of custody, the real divorce issues are more higher earner / lower earner these days.
Seriously, are you 12 years old? Since when did paying to support your children and provide for their needs some kind of pay off for one of the divorcing parties?
These posts are getting juvenile and sliding downhill fast. Read the thread then get back to us.
I've been reading the thread since it stated, just beacuse you don't like what Im telling its juvenile. Yes child support is a type of payment if you don't pay they put you in jail(Even if its not your child, but thats a diffrent topic for a diffrent day).
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Idiot I've been reading the thread since it stated, just beacuse you don't like what Im telling its juvenile. Yes child support is a type of payment if you don't pay they put you in jail(Even if its not your child, but thats a diffrent topic for a diffrent day).
To me, child support is extortion and feminist-institutionalized.
The house belong to the man. He brought it in the first place and the home was his before he married her.
Oh, man, why do I think we've reached our teenage audience now. That's a heck of an assumption and it's more wrong than right.
You don't know why people divorce and every case is different. My own father was married three times and after number 2 cleaned the house out while he was at work, I stood there and said, 'well, I can't see how you didn't deserve it.' He actually agreed. He just couldn't give up his girlfriends and she contributed her income to that household, the furniture, the upkeep, the mortgage. Which is typical of most divorce cases.
First off the majority of people are middle of the road incomes and I've yet to meet anyone, man or woman, who got paid a huge suit case sized large settlement and I have 12 aunts and uncles all divorced, some more than once.
Secondly, the person paying alimony can write all of it off as a tax deduction while the receiver of it must pay income taxes on it.
You're right, which is why losing half of your assets or paying a chunk of your monthly income in alimony is going to hurt a middle or lower class person more than it will hurt a high income person.
True, but they cannot write off child support, and that income is not counted in the calculations towards the woman's household income when creating this "women in poverty after divorce" studies. I'm not saying women aren't in comparative poverty, but every study I've seen omits this tidbit.
Idiot I've been reading the thread since it stated, just beacuse you don't like what Im telling its juvenile. Yes child support is a type of payment if you don't pay they put you in jail(Even if its not your child, but thats a diffrent topic for a diffrent day).
Run out of intelligent things to say?..this discussion is over.
Oh, man, why do I think we've reached our teenage audience now. That's a heck of an assumption and it's more wrong than right.
You don't know why people divorce and every case is different. My own father was married three times and after number 2 cleaned the house out while he was at work, I stood there and said, 'well, I can't see how you didn't deserve it.' He actually agreed. He just couldn't give up his girlfriends and she contributed her income to that household, the furniture, the upkeep, the mortgage. Which is typical of most divorce cases.
I'm old enough to know how divorce settlements are. So we're teenagers now? Oh, I forgot. People of the opposite sex always believe they're always right.
What good is it to "get the house" if she can't afford the mortgage payment, utilities, and maintenance costs on one salary?
This is a good reason why they should try to work it out, or sell the house and downsize, or the kids should go with the parent who can afford to keep them in the house.
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