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09-08-2011, 10:34 PM
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Location: So Cal
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Originally Posted by ChessieMom
Hey now. I love me some Love...love will keep us together....thiiiinnk about me whenevah....
Gonna be singing that for the next day now...I just know it. 
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Oh, jeez... we've gotten full on 70's disco.....  
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09-09-2011, 04:30 AM
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Location: NC
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09-09-2011, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SifuPhil
True, very true, and usually the park serves as a sponge for any overflow, but with all the rain we've had lately the ground is over-saturated.
Here's the entrance to my club ... the water is now over the bar and the stages, and we still haven't hit high water yet. The awning on the left is about 7' high ...
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I can smell the mold from here...blech! Just from when my washing machine was stuck on fill for 2 hours and what happened with clean water to the basement and what I had to do to clean it up - I can only imagine what you'll be faced with and not only did the insurance company not pay to clean it up - they dropped me because of it. I had to remove everything and bleach every inch of the walls and things myself. Horrible.
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09-09-2011, 06:13 AM
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Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Originally Posted by Thursday007
I can smell the mold from here...blech! Just from when my washing machine was stuck on fill for 2 hours and what happened with clean water to the basement and what I had to do to clean it up - I can only imagine what you'll be faced with and not only did the insurance company not pay to clean it up - they dropped me because of it. I had to remove everything and bleach every inch of the walls and things myself. Horrible.
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In the 20-some-odd years I've lived in this area I've learned that this area is flood-prone and has a moldy history. My club has been flooded at least 4 times that I've known of, and the basement already smelled of mold.
But then, so do the majority of the houses along the flood plain; the house I lived in for 10 years while married was 2 blocks from the river, much like the club. It's something the locals just seem to have resignedly learned to live with.
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09-09-2011, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SifuPhil
In the 20-some-odd years I've lived in this area I've learned that this area is flood-prone and has a moldy history. My club has been flooded at least 4 times that I've known of, and the basement already smelled of mold.
But then, so do the majority of the houses along the flood plain; the house I lived in for 10 years while married was 2 blocks from the river, much like the club. It's something the locals just seem to have resignedly learned to live with.
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I live across the street from the river and my house is built on what was once a canal area. I have one of the few basements in the area that DOESN'T flood so my personal property value is higher. What happened to me was I hit 'reset' on the washing machine and it got stuck and just kept filling. Then went upstairs and cleaned out my filing cabinet and watched a movie at the same time - about 2 hours. When it was over I started to walk down to the basement and could still hear the water running and I stepped on the last step and it was ice cold water up to my ankles and my first thought was - oh damn, the gas pilot in the water heater and had to turn that off too.
The mold developed later and from the floor to the ceiling on the walls. I had to either pay over $6000 at minimum, or clean it up myself. The insurance company claimed it came from outside in and we went round and round over it and they dumped me. I went to Lowe's and bought shopping carts full of industrial strength Clorox and had to clean every wall with a sponge and remove and drag up all the carpet myself. What a mess.
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09-09-2011, 06:42 AM
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Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Originally Posted by Thursday007
I live across the street from the river and my house is built on what was once a canal area. I have one of the few basements in the area that DOESN'T flood so my personal property value is higher. What happened to me was I hit 'reset' on the washing machine and it got stuck and just kept filling. Then went upstairs and cleaned out my filing cabinet and watched a movie at the same time - about 2 hours. When it was over I started to walk down to the basement and could still hear the water running and I stepped on the last step and it was ice cold water up to my ankles and my first thought was - oh damn, the gas pilot in the water heater and had to turn that off too.
The mold developed later and from the floor to the ceiling on the walls. I had to either pay over $6000 at minimum, or clean it up myself. The insurance company claimed it came from outside in and we went round and round over it and they dumped me. I went to Lowe's and bought shopping carts full of industrial strength Clorox and had to clean every wall with a sponge and remove and drag up all the carpet myself. What a mess.
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Wow.
I've never had to deal directly with the consequences of a flood - for me it's all anecdotal knowledge from the old-timers here, coupled with trying a slew of methods to eliminate the smell. Even when I owned my cleaning company I refused flood clean-ups, because frankly I was afraid of them.
Now I guess I'll find out what it's like. I'm thinking the first thing I have to do is get a tetanus shot, a good pair of rubber boots and a LOT of body-wash.
As for insurance - not sure how that works here in a flood-plain, especially since Obama just OK'd the release of Federal funds for the clean-up (the last time that happened was Hurricane Agnes in '72, when Nixon came to visit the wreckage).
The thing that gets me is the feeling of powerlessness when this happens. All you can do is pack your bags and run to high ground. Just another reminder, perhaps, that you can't fight Nature ...
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09-09-2011, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SifuPhil
Wow.
I've never had to deal directly with the consequences of a flood - for me it's all anecdotal knowledge from the old-timers here, coupled with trying a slew of methods to eliminate the smell. Even when I owned my cleaning company I refused flood clean-ups, because frankly I was afraid of them.
Now I guess I'll find out what it's like. I'm thinking the first thing I have to do is get a tetanus shot, a good pair of rubber boots and a LOT of body-wash.
As for insurance - not sure how that works here in a flood-plain, especially since Obama just OK'd the release of Federal funds for the clean-up (the last time that happened was Hurricane Agnes in '72, when Nixon came to visit the wreckage).
The thing that gets me is the feeling of powerlessness when this happens. All you can do is pack your bags and run to high ground. Just another reminder, perhaps, that you can't fight Nature ...
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If you live in a known flood zone you need seperate flood insurance, I don't know how it works when the President releases emergency funds, but I can only imagine since people in New Orleans are still waiting.
The other aspect of it is EVERYTHING metal will eventually begin to rust and if it is not taken care of before winter all your pipes are backed up and will burst. Some of the stuff as a result of this may not show up until a few years later even if you clean it up - like the pipes and furnance and water heater rust and the washing machine and dryer rusted out of the bottoms too. If the mold is in the vents everyone will eventually get sick who works there every day and that needs to be cleaned too. What a mess man....may the force be with you.
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09-09-2011, 07:13 AM
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Maybe Chow can crank up Muskrat Love and other songs about critters for ya Phil.
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09-09-2011, 07:18 AM
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09-09-2011, 07:34 AM
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Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Originally Posted by Thursday007
If you live in a known flood zone you need seperate flood insurance, I don't know how it works when the President releases emergency funds, but I can only imagine since people in New Orleans are still waiting.
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All I know is that in the big '72 flood, the Feds actually came through pretty quickly with funding, but there were also many, many stories about people not getting the money and of course all the scams that came about.
Also, flood insurance here is very tough to get sometimes - the typical insurance ploy.
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The other aspect of it is EVERYTHING metal will eventually begin to rust and if it is not taken care of before winter all your pipes are backed up and will burst. Some of the stuff as a result of this may not show up until a few years later even if you clean it up - like the pipes and furnance and water heater rust and the washing machine and dryer rusted out of the bottoms too. If the mold is in the vents everyone will eventually get sick who works there every day and that needs to be cleaned too. What a mess man....may the force be with you.
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Yeah, we took out all the stuff the other night - the washer and dryer, water heater, jukebox, kitchen appliances, pool table, etc. - but yes, the mold and the smell is the big problem. Maybe we'll finally get some new carpeting! 
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