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10-16-2011, 01:21 PM
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What's the difference between having "no shame" and "no dignity"?
...because sometimes I just don't know anymore.
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10-16-2011, 01:30 PM
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Location: Emerald Coast, FL
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, but to me, "no shame" would be about acting in a way that harms others solely for your own benefit. Shame, though, is often a false concept, intended to try to control the person being labelled, to make them conform to some idea, even though the idea itself may be flawed.
No dignity? I think that would be applicable to someone who acts the buffoon to be popular, at the cost of any deeper hope for actual respect. Dignity is innate, not given.
I could be dumped naked in Times Square against my will and retain my dignity, but if I willingly went naked in Times Square for kicks, I'd have no shame and would offend others needlessly for my own gratification.
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10-16-2011, 02:21 PM
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Well, Sean Connery had neither in a movie once, and, well, he's cool and all. Ya know, Bond, James Bond. And it was just fine for him, so if I ain't got either one hey, that's cool. I'm good!!   |
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10-16-2011, 02:32 PM
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Location: Western Washington
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Just off the top of my head....at least for me, they go hand in hand, but not to the same degree. I can act like a brat, or silly (undignified to some) and still feel no shame. I couldn't, however, go out and get drunk and be a completely undignified a$$ and not feel shame. If a person makes a public scene (acts undignified), which offends others and/or embarrasses those who are with them, IMHO, they should be ashamed of themselves.
The question is, why is it that you're asking this question? Really, it's kind of an individual thing. Some people find it horribly undignified for someone to pass gas in the company of others, where others simply believe it's a basic, natural bodily function and appropriate in many places...if accompanied by an, "Excuse me".
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10-16-2011, 02:32 PM
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Location: South FL
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Dignity
The quality or state of being worthy of esteem or respect.
Shame
A painful emotion caused by a strong sense of guilt, embarrassment, unworthiness, or disgrace.
Those above is the basic definition of those words. For me, shame is often imposed on a person by others. It's a feeling that people may feel when they are judged by another human being, often a false feeling, and often undeserved. It is in fact a very painful feeling.
Dignity however, for me, is a state of being that is internal, and developed throughout your life, mostly based on experiences, teachings and personality. A person with dignity is less likely to succumb to shame, because he knows his worth already and his actions will not induce justified shame anyway.
"She has no shame" is usually said as a negative statement, however, to me it seems that she just doesn't really care about opinions of others about her behavior. While a person with no dignity will do things that REALLY are hurtful to himself and others.
It seems like those 2 are similar, but I think that they are in fact different, but intertwine.
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