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good grief. Why not just meet people, date, have fun, see where things go - and not put so much time into thinking about people's looks. People are more than a number and people are more than some imaginary "league." when you put soooo much time and effort into thinking about all these superficial things - you lose sight of what's really important in a human being.
^^^^ this!!!
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick
i think...
A) men for the most part are delusional and clueless about their level of attractiveness to women.
B) men are always trying to score with someone out of their league
c) most men would be better served finding a a strong, reliable woman within their "league"
I don't play that game so it doesn't really apply to my comment.
Was just a few weeks ago I went on a few dates with this woman. Then she started acting strangely. "I want you to fight for me" is what I eventually drag out of her. More eventually I drag out of her that the only thing that I am fighting for her against is...her.
I saw the ludicrousness of this. She didn't.
I was no longer concerned about getting her.
Yea. I hate that. I don't understand where people get all of this self entitlement from...
Hopefully, no one fights for her, and she'll wake up.
I can't really speak from personal experience (only internet dating really ) but I'm wondering if you've found this to be the case...
That there's no point 'limiting yourself' and sticking to girls who are 'in your league' because you think they are too good for you or because they are very attractive, let's say the top 10% of the population.
Personally, I think girls who think of themselves as attractive - which isn't always the same as actually being so - often try to play 'hard to get' or just keep themselves off-limits. A lot of rather average looking women think of themselves this way. On the other hand, it seems if you hit the right buttons it's not all that impossible to land the 'hot chick', especially if she doesn't have that attitude.
I guess my point is that maybe the whole belief that attractive women are much harder to have a relationship with isn't entirely true (and mean of course there is a basis for it). I'm not just talking exceptions, but maybe a different dynamic is going on.
What do you think?
Attractive women either they want a rich men so they can keep up their visuals. Women who are attractive are picky and they should be, because they took the time to look good, take care of themselves.
So who want to be with a loser, who is ugly.
Women want to feel love, protected, and want security. I mean some attractive women do work, they are not just trophy wives. Those who do make their own money, still want a guy who is rich, because they life style are expensive. Imagine looking that good it takes money.
Point is attractive women either want a rich guy or a rich hot guy.
If you are not rich, you don't fit the bill.
Attractive women either they want a rich men so they can keep up their visuals. Women who are attractive are picky and they should be, because they took the time to look good, take care of themselves.
So who want to be with a loser, who is ugly.
Women want to feel love, protected, and want security. I mean some attractive women do work, they are not just trophy wives. Those who do make their own money, still want a guy who is rich, because they life style are expensive. Imagine looking that good it takes money.
Point is attractive women either want a rich guy or a rich hot guy.
If you are not rich, you don't fit the bill.
Sorry.
You don't have to be rich. If you have looks, that'll be enough as well.
I can't really speak from personal experience (only internet dating really ) but I'm wondering if you've found this to be the case...
That there's no point 'limiting yourself' and sticking to girls who are 'in your league' because you think they are too good for you or because they are very attractive, let's say the top 10% of the population.
Personally, I think girls who think of themselves as attractive - which isn't always the same as actually being so - often try to play 'hard to get' or just keep themselves off-limits. A lot of rather average looking women think of themselves this way. On the other hand, it seems if you hit the right buttons it's not all that impossible to land the 'hot chick', especially if she doesn't have that attitude.
I guess my point is that maybe the whole belief that attractive women are much harder to have a relationship with isn't entirely true (and mean of course there is a basis for it). I'm not just talking exceptions, but maybe a different dynamic is going on.
What do you think?
the answer i believe is simple. just put yourself in the others shoes... if you can figure out why someone is off limits or not or easy to get etc. it should become very easy. i think
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Originally Posted by xxbabeechick
I think...
a) men for the most part are delusional and clueless about their level of attractiveness to women.
b) men are always trying to score with someone out of their league
c) most men would be better served finding a a strong, reliable woman within their "league"
I think 'leagues' are the BS of delusional or misguided, narcissistic people. What league will you move to when your looks are gone? And they eventually will be. At what point, exactly, do you change leagues? Especially men who are, by nature maybe, delusional about their looks--usually thinking they look far better than they do. Luckily for them, most women are very forgiving in the looks department, whereas, men often are not. But I'm running off the track here.
I wish more people would look deeper than looks. They'd suffer a lot less in the future looking for a quality person who takes pride in their looks and health rather than just looking for looks. Exceptionally good looks seem to make idiots of most people.
Look. First's things first. The term, 'to get.' You're not dropping a butterfly net over the woman to put her in a cage. You are not conquering. You're not trying to coax her into the sack for a quickie (Well, okay, maybe you are). If that's how you approach things, then count on Rosie Palms being your regular saturday night date.
Second, the #1 sure-fire way to get a woman interested in you is to, ahem, TALK TO HER. As if she were a real human being with real thoughts and emotions and desires and beliefs. Not as if she were a life-support system for boobs and a vagina.
Third, respect yourself. In how you dress. In how you talk. In how you walk through the room. Because if you don't think you're a person of value, if you think you're playing out of your league, then you are automatically telling her that you are beneath her.
I think they are. I will say that most of the female attention I get (not that there's much) comes from average and below average-looking women.
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) but I'm wondering if you've found this to be the case...
