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Old 02-02-2012, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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I've mentioned this before: for the past 10 years or so we have two types of marriages available here in AZ - a regular marriage and a covenant one. The latter requires pre-marital counseling and can't result in a no-fault divorce. I've been curious whether people opt for it, but haven't come across any info on the subject so far.
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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I never had the thought of divorce when getting married so the state we married in is irrelevent.
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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I never had the thought of divorce when getting married so the state we married in is irrelevent.
The state a couple marries in doesn't matter anyway. It's the state they divorce in that counts and people move quite a bit here.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: a primitive state
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the real issue of community property is not as to real property, real estate, but with debt. she can take out credit in her name but you are 100% responsible for the debt. after the marriage the lawyers will "negotiate" a settlement on the debt. translation buddy u r guna pay her credit cards.
that is the real difference in community property, u r responsible for the community debt and all debt is community property incurred during the marriage. of late we are finding guys having their checks garnished for her prior student loans. surprise suprise. this is something new.
community property debt, its one of the few types of debt that u r 100% responsible and yet your consent is not required nor your written approval. sounds a bit like slavery doesnt it?
You used to be funny but now you're just bitter.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: southern california
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You used to be funny but now you're just bitter.
divorce is a very sensitive subject. i will strive to make it not too painful to talk about.
yes clowns that hit too close to home often get fired.

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Old 02-02-2012, 10:25 PM
 
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Isn't that sort of planning for a divorce? To me it's like a prenup. The divorce is planned before the wedding plans are even finished
I don't think too many people get married planning for divorce but life happens. The reason I asked is because I got caught up watching some you tube videos on Estate planning and some how it went to divorce and then to community property states.

So after viewing some explanations on some things I just wondered if people thought about the difference before they got married? Knowing what I know now, I would consult an Attorney first and find out state laws.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:28 PM
 
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Why would you marry someone who was fiscally irresponsible or that you could not trust?
People sometimes become fiscally irresponsible over time and are not irresponsible at the time of marriage.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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Did anyone consider what state they were married in pertaining to a state being a community property or common law state?

I was watching some You tube videos on the subject and I would thin it would be a major consideration if people knew the difference.
Wow, I never in a million years would have thought to consider this! And I still don't know, technically (I'm going to go look it up now b/c I'm curious)...we were married in Vegas, and I have no clue about NV marital laws.

Of course, we lived in NJ for three years and now we have lived here in CA for seven years and I believe both states are community property states...I think. I mean my first divorce happened in NJ but we had no property to split and I remember having that fact verified but it didn't pertain so much to us. CA I'm almost positive is a community property state b/c of the scene in Blind Date where Kim Basinger told the Asian woman in the ladies' room that by CA law she was entitled to 50%.

Now I really am curious!

Bottom line: no, obviously my vote is, I did not consider this before marrying.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:31 AM
 
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By the time a marriage gets to divorce court, it is about survival.
Oh please, divorce isn't always that much drama. I didn't try to rape my ex for anything and he didn't try to rape me for anything. Neither of us had a second thought about fighting for the newer car or any silly thing like that. What I really wanted was to be free. And he had no urge to beat me to a pulp financially.

Divorce can be ugly, certainly. But not every divorce is. It's just that the calm ones get so much less press (and so much less sympathy).

Are you worth all that much, Alanboy? Then don't marry and don't cohabitate. Problem averted.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Oh please, divorce isn't always that much drama. I didn't try to rape my ex for anything and he didn't try to rape me for anything. Neither of us had a second thought about fighting for the newer car or any silly thing like that. What I really wanted was to be free. And he had no urge to beat me to a pulp financially.

Divorce can be ugly, certainly. But not every divorce is. It's just that the calm ones get so much less press (and so much less sympathy).

Are you worth all that much, Alanboy? Then don't marry and don't cohabitate. Problem averted.
With divorce courts like they are today, I'm gonna do my best to position myself to survive since it is open season on men most times.
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