Weight and being shallow (friends, relations, difference, issues)

[Free Beer]

Originally Posted by lovesMountains

I have simply tried to tell him that he can't speak for all men and say things like "no one" would want the unattractive package.

By definition, no one wants an unattractive woman. BY DEFINITION. How does this concept escape you? Arguing that different dudes find different things attractive in no possible way undermines my statements whatsoever. In fact, it supports them.

But, again, REAL MEN are grown up and don't concern themselves with such nonsense. They are in fact blind idiots.

[lovesMountains]

Originally Posted by Free Beer

No, not at all. REAL MEN do not like attractive women. I thought that was clear.

Again, REAL men understand that many different things make a woman attractive.

They are not limited to judging attractiveness by physical attributes alone.

All men like to look at attractive women.

Real men understand that beauty is only skin deep.

Because they have this capacity, they will often choose women as partners that teenage boys wouldn't.

[lovesMountains]

Originally Posted by Free Beer

By definition, no one wants an unattractive woman. BY DEFINITION. How does this concept escape you? Arguing that different dudes find different things attractive in no possible way undermines my statements whatsoever. In fact, it supports them.

But, again, REAL MEN are grown up and don't concern themselves with such nonsense. They are in fact blind idiots.

But again, what is attractive TO YOU at your stage of development will not always be attractive to grown men.

Grown men can find some women extremely attractive that teenagers would not.

[yayoi]

Originally Posted by somebodynew

I don't think sarcasm is helping your cause. I think it is being completely missed.

That's not sarcasm. That's either a profound lack of reading comprehension or a lame attempt at mind reading.

[Rabbitluvr]

Free Beer needs to lay off the 'free beer'. Closing time, mate.

Sorry, dude, but your posts in this thread really are ridiculous. This all-or-nothing, black-and-white mentality is juvenile at best. Grow up.

[Stumbler.]

If you are concerned with weight and weight is a deal-breaker... men and women, you should become astronauts and set up a date on the International Space Station.

Once you go into space, your problems are solved (people are weightless in space, don't ya know).

[yellowsnow]

Hair, eyes, height, skin color, ethnicity, these are all things we are born with and that's pretty much the way it is. Preferences on this are just that, preferences. Not a character judgement.

Then there's the list of things we commonly judge to be character flaws. Like body size, smoking, or drug use. Right or wrong, it's what most people do. Then there's the implied judgement that if you are fat, you are lazy and out of control.

People get a lot more worked up over judgement than a simple statement of fact.

[SwedishViking]

Well beauty might only be skin deep, but if your skin is plenty deep to beginwith it's not that shallow anymore.

[phoenix_down]

I work out constantly to stay in shape. And I expect a partner at least be in shape as well. But that's not the only thing I'm looking for, but just a facet of it. I also want there to be a connection on a more personal level. If that's considered shallow, then I guess I'm shallow

"I'm not fat. I'm just festively plump!"
-Eric Cartman

[Ulysses61]

Why should excess weight be a deal breaker for someone extremely fit and active? This is a lifestyle choice. A big attraction I had for my future husband was that he was also a marathon runner, an avid hiker and someone who exercises a lot.

I suspect the people who regard this as "shallow" have excess weight issues themselves. It's not shallow to prefer blondes (or brunettes) or people with blue (or brown or green) eyes. Same thing with weight.