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Fiscal conservatism spreads in all kinds of ways. The only fault I will find with the man is not offering to pay for his date, coz that conflicts with chivalry. But none of us (even the date) have any right or reason to dictate what he chooses to pay for with his wallet, especially when it's a personal choice of tipping. And that's period too.
Mod cut.
But don't hand us a bunch of convoluted arguments in favor of your stiffing a waiter or waitress. You know the rules every time you walk into a place with table service.
Really? Ummmm....this is a relationship forum. You know, where Person A asks question and people come in with their thoughts on the subject.
Here's the deal. The waitstaff makes their money off tips. Period. End of story. And waiting tables is really, really hard work. So if you don't like that system, then either don't go to a sit-down restaurant or eat at Hardee's. For if you choose to go to a sit-down restaurant, then that is a tacit agreement on your part that you will conform to what we deem to be correct treatment of the people who work in that restaurant.
With that in mind, a person who eats a $20 meal and can only muster a $1 tip is pretty much a self-centered lowlife, one who seems to think none of this applies to him. What's more, it's a pretty good indicator what that guy is going to be like for the OP if she chose to continue the relationship. As I have said a million times on this board (Sierra, are you listening?), the best single evidence of a person's character is how a person treats people like waiters, sales clerks, and the like. Because, in six months, that's how the person in question will be treating you.
What "agreement" are you talking. Tipping is not mandatory. I tip because I want to. I tip because of good servive. I don't feel I'm under any obligation to tip. Guess what? Bad service, no tip. And please people stop with the sob stories about waiters not making a lot of money. That's their problem. Find a job that pays more money.Take it up with the managment, not me. I don't ever tip because I feel sorry for the Waiters. At my job I don't get paid for just showing up. If I don't perform I get fired.
I think it's a nice gesture when the man pays for the first date. I wouldn't go on a first date to a 5 star restaurant. Drinks, coffee, maybe an average costing restaurant? If a man isn't willing to pay for a few glasses of wine or a meal for me to make a good first impression, then that says a lot about him in my opinion. Once we get to the 2nd date then I'm all for going dutch, and if we start dating often I'm more than fine to pay for all of the meal sometimes.
And if he tipped a dollar that would be a deal breaker for me. Everyone is entitled to their own tipping opinions, but I waited a lot of tables in college and I worked hard sometimes for no tip because of cheap customers, not because I wasn't doing a good job.
What "agreement" are you talking. Tipping is not mandatory. I tip because I want to. I tip because of good servive. I don't feel I'm under any obligation to tip. Guess what? Bad service, no tip. And please people stop with the sob stories about waiter not making a lot of money that's their problem. Find a job that pays more money.Take it up with the managment, not me. I don't ever tip because I feel sorry for the Waiters. At my job I don't get paid for just showing up. If I don't perform I get fired.
But you do tip for good service - correct? And you tip more the better the service is? And do you tip the minimum when the service is fine? Does it take a bad experience for you to not tip?
Wow! Someone has anger issues! Someone here started a thread based on a guy wanting her to go dutch. This guy also was a lousy tipper. So other posters on here chime in with their 2 cents. My two cents is that I wouldn't want to date a lousy tipper. It tells me that they are not generous. This is my opinion. The OP started a thread because she wanted to hear other people's personal opinions. That is what we are doing. So I'm not sure why you are getting so mad about people posting their opinions on a thread in which someone asked for opinions... Oh well. Have a nice day!
No, no, no, I didn't mean "you" to mind your own fricking business. It was a generic call to let individuals the right to tip on a date on their own free will. That is all.
How do I come across as not having anger issues. Use emoticons like old times? <I'll give you a flying kiss, don't tell your husband> <muah>
Let's just say generous tippers on a date are welcome to line up all waiters, waitresses and even the hobos on the street and hand 10$ each. But let's leave people in the adjacent tables alone and respect their rights to tip whatever they want.
What "agreement" are you talking. Tipping is not mandatory. I tip because I want to. I tip because of good servive. I don't feel I'm under any obligation to tip. Guess what? Bad service, no tip. And please people stop with the sob stories about waiters not making a lot of money. That's their problem. Find a job that pays more money.Take it up with the managment, not me. I don't ever tip because I feel sorry for the Waiters. At my job I don't get paid for just showing up. If I don't perform I get fired.
Sure there's one. What's more, the OP didn't seem to detail any service issues that would warrant a bad tip. Nope. You're just fishing around for any excuse for cheapness. Hey, if you don't want to pay a tip, then make up a picnic basket and take your date to the park. But don't take it out on some person who is busting it to serve you and then serve up some excuse to dignify what is really scummy behavior.
But you do tip for good service - correct? And you tip more the better the service is? And do you tip the minimum when the service is fine? Does it take a bad experience for you to not tip?
I think that is what is supposed to happen. But if the service is great - and you stiff them on the tip - I think that is awful. Those people shouldn't go to sit down restaurants. If people are doing a great job and making your meal better - and you are unwilling to show your appreciation - you shouldn't be there in the first place. There is a difference between tipping based on the quality of your service and just being a bad or nonexistent tipper. For the record - all of my friends are amazing servers! Most performers are!
I guess I never got the memo. I have never paid on a first date. He sounds cheap, and it broke all your "dating rules." I'll leave it at that and move on to the next one.
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