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Old 02-25-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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Some people aren't bitter and jaded. Other people just think they are (or that the should be, so they must be)
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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I wonder if high intelligence is correlated with being nicer/more civilized behavior.
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Nope. Bitchy/demanding/drama queen(both male and female ) come in all classes.
I think the OP is correct. Intelligence is a player here. It's one thing to get and be hurt. That happens to everyone. To turn that into a bigoted pov is something else. It's irrational and that highlights diminished intelligence.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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There are extremely bright people out there who have very emotional points of view. Look at politics, religion.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Bitterness stems from refusal to take responsibility for one's own actions. People generally have different ideas of what it even means to be burned, but everyone has a hand in their relationship problems, even if it's simply choosing the wrong person and putting up with it. When one chooses not to take responsibility for anything, it allows them to feel like a perpetual victim, which ironically makes them more bitter because they now have no control over anything. So one can own their own actions and take control over what they can while striving to be a better partner and a better human being (which can be painful cause it's hard to look in the mirror) or they can cede all of their power, be a perpetual victim, and have no control over anything. This will ensure that they remain bitter cause everyone just keeps heaping evil on poor, helpless them.
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:18 PM
 
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I think the OP is correct. Intelligence is a player here. It's one thing to get and be hurt. That happens to everyone. To turn that into a bigoted pov is something else. It's irrational and that highlights diminished intelligence.
The overall response on the question of intelligence and niceness is certainly eye opening. Part of me have always assumed that smarter people are overall nicer (or at least capable of being nicer, they may choose to be *******s of course). My general impression is that smarter people have better metacognitive capabilities, so they are able to analyze their own thoughts and feelings better and remain in control of their emotions.

It seems that a lot of social dysfunction comes from personal insecurities. Rejection stings mostly because it reinforces insecurities. It seems to me that most insecurities come from status competition in society. Social status is a zero-sum game so there must be losers, but at the same time, it must have its uses since the desire for social status seems to be hard wired into us. It's hard to tell people not to desire social status since the desire seems so innate. I wonder if this isn't some evolutionary trait that makes us each suffer individually but better as a species.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:21 PM
 
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Bitterness, regardless of gender, stems from learning that everyone out there, including yourself, is, to one degree or another, full of $h!t.

I certainly hope that there is "eternal rest" as my religion promises, because the thought of a dice roll and not knowing what and where you will be reincarnated is too scary. I'm trying to be funny, but I'm serious.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:25 PM
 
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Bitterness, regardless of gender, stems from learning that everyone out there, including yourself, is, to one degree or another, full of $h!t.
What a great observation!
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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I'm trying to be funny, but I'm serious.
Forgive my curiosity and don't answer if you don't want to, but did you get divorced? You sound different in this come-back...
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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Part of me have always assumed that smarter people are overall nicer (or at least capable of being nicer, they may choose to be *******s of course).

It seems that a lot of social dysfunction comes from personal insecurities. Rejection stings mostly because it reinforces insecurities. It seems to me that most insecurities come from status competition in society.
I have to hand it to you. You seem extremely bright and reflective. I, too, think that smarter people have the capacity to be nicer, unless they're fiercely competitive and haven't yet arrived...or have arrived and are consumed by their status and position.

I find that most people who aren't smart, or won't work at it, but get ahead, tend to be smarmier, relying on methods less rewarded by the meritocratic system that typically rewards smart people. Just an observation. But I like how you think.

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Old 02-26-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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There seems to be a lot of men on here that think really poorly of women. What happened to make you so bitter/jaded about women?

Also I'm curious as to what are your ages. I'm only 28 so maybe I haven't been burned yet? I read terrible anecdotes about how bitchy/demanding/drama queen some women are but then I've never met any of these women in real life.

I wonder if high intelligence is correlated with being nicer/more civilized behavior.

They choose to allow the actions of another control their own actions for the rest of their lives.

Personally I think it is a crutch to lean on because they don't want to grow up and be responsible for their own actions. If you can blame someone else for all the crap in your life it is much easier to believe you have no way to change how your life goes.
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