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Originally Posted by Doll Eyes
Well makes no sense for women to think this way, when men don't. A lot of good that's gonna do her.
Until attitudes change this will be a problem for many more ambitious or not so good looking women. There's still a big percent of people who hold these shallow views.
Yes, I think women are judged more harshly and unforgivingly, in general.
Especially in terms of looks and appearance, women are held to a much higher standard.
Men are also held to high standards, but for other reasons (career, money, etc). I wish that people in general would only judge based on character, not someone's physical appearance that they often can't help or net income.
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Originally Posted by dragonborn
Men are also held to high standards, but for other reasons (career, money, etc). I wish that people in general would only judge based on character, not someone's physical appearance that they often can't help or net income.
Some really do. They're just more quiet about it. It's easy to spot those relationships where it really is true love.
I only mostly know Gloria Steinem as a name because I heard an hour-long radio interview with her one time (maybe earlier this year) one morning. All I knew is that she was a major feminist in the movement of the '60s but I wasn't around in the '60s anyway. In any case, just from that limited source and one time I heard of her, she seemed like a fair and progressive person that fought for social change and came across as very reasonable in the attitudes she showed in the interview, but then again I am only judging based on that information alone.
I don't know what this statement is supposed to mean.
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Also don't forget our very own Germaine Greer. I read the Female Eunuch, it actually made a lot of sense and I agreed with most of it. Now she's just a grumpy old woman who complains about the littlest things.
Men have it easier, there are a lot of ways to improve your perceived level of attractiveness, and being unattractive does not have the same stigma for a man as it does a woman.
That goes without saying... Is there ANY area in which men don't have it easier?!
One thing I respected about reading about (one manifestation of) the feminist worldview is when some feminists say "the body is just the vehicle for the mind" and moving away about judgements about bodies and more about personalities that inhabit them (I don't know if that's a distinctly feminist ideology alone but I think feminism did help a lot in promoting this view, just like the civil rights movement promoted the view that it didn't matter if you were black or white or what colour on the outside -- people were people).
It seems now some people actually insist on taking this idea the other way and saying "Feminists think that people born one sex is superior than those born the other!", where feminism was supposed to say "Sex/gender doesn't matter. People do."
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That goes without saying... Is there ANY area in which men don't have it easier?!
You don't want me to list them, but you asked for it .
1. In the past, and in some cases now, men were conscripted to go to war to fight and die
2. Have you ever been kicked or otherwise injured in the balls?
3. The amount of work some men have to go through in dating.
4. Man is still mostly expected to propose etc.
5. Still more pressure to be assertive, ambitious, have a successful career, although that's fast leveling out.
6. We die on average 5 years earlier than women.
7. Often having to do the more physically demanding roles.
8. Not having the unique experience of carrying a child, although that could also be a negative.
Of course I'm not saying women have it any EASIER, just saying there are downsides to being male...
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