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Old 03-04-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Aw, that's not true! I'm a Republican woman and very nice. However, I'm not any where as conservative as this person is, but maybe that's because I've lived in other countries and in major US cities, and have friends from all over.

I dated a super liberal guy, and I was fairly conservative. We argued sometimes over things, but I actually had to get him to recycle and reduce his overall consumption of stuff (that's actually part of being conservative - you know, conserving stuff and nature?). Anyway, it can work. We just had to learn to respect one another's differences of opinion and learn from one another once in awhile.

It sounds like your fiance has a very limited world view, so maybe if you two would get out of your usual environment for awhile and spend some time in a very different one, then you could expand her horizons. Why don't the two of you volunteer for some very poor people, so she can see they can't just necessarily "get over it?" Or maybe travel some place new and interact with the locals, so she can see how other people think. You shouldn't have to hide who you are and how you think from your life partner. Doesn't sound like a good partnership if you can't be who you are. But I think it's very worthwhile to share your dissimilar views and see if you can't get her to open her mind a little. She's doing Republicans a great disservice to be so narrowminded.
A long-held belief of mine---that not EVERY person who has a Republican/conservative viewpoint is someone to be automatically hated, feared, and despised...you gave the OP good solid advice, and I hope he takes something positive away from reading your post...
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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I know right. Some of these people need to quit worrying about the the U.S. and worry more about the third world sh*t hole countries they live in.
I didn't know New Zealand was a third world country and from pictures I've seen, it's far from being a "sh*thole country".

Ignorance is blissful, right?
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: SWUS
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I know right. Some of these people need to quit worrying about the the U.S. and worry more about the third world sh*t hole countries they live in.
1. She stated she does not live in New Zealand.
2. New Zealand is not a "third world **** hole."

OP, if she really is like that, bringing up those things in conversation will just cause contention that wasn't really there before. I'd say to just leave it and continue doing what you're doing.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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My SO and I do not have identical views or politics, but neither do we have opposing/conflicting views and politics. So long as values are compatible, I don't find it to be a big deal, personally. I didn't sign on to be with somebody who thinks exactly like I do. As long as our beliefs work well together, it's a nonissue. Not all differing politics are opposing politics.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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My husband and I have very different political views. One of us is very anti-abortion, one is pro-choice. One is anti-unions, the other pro. (etc, etc). The thing is, neither of us is going to have an abortion. Neither of us is a member of a union. None of this stuff affects us on a daily basis. Every 4 years we bicker and debate certain issues back and forth, but at the end of the day it's just not a major player in our daily lives, so we avoid talking about it most of the time and life goes on.

That being said...we absolutely 1000% discussed this a million times over before we got married (or even engaged). We knew that we aligned on every major thing in our lives--the role of religion in our marriage, giving to charity, heck, even recycling (hey, we met in college--the beer bottles had to go somewhere). It's not fair to either of you to not be completely up front about every little thing before you say "I do". If my husband had turned out to be as extreme and stubborn in his views as it sounds like your fiancee is, I don't think we would have made it to the alter.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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It would NEVER work with me. But that's just me
Me too. There are certain beliefs that would be a deal breaker for me. We don't have to agree on everything, but there are a few key issues that are important.

That being said, a good friend of mine is very socially conservative, and her husband is very liberal on social issues. They have "play fights" about it. (One big disagreement for them is gay marriage, but she definitely has some issues to work out on that one, seeing as one of her best friends from college is gay and wants to get married, so this has caused a bit of a rift in their friendship.)
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I didn't know New Zealand was a third world country and from pictures I've seen, it's far from being a "sh*thole country".

Ignorance is blissful, right?
Ignorance is bliss, Do you even know the original meaning of the word "third world"? Third world is a cold war geopolitical term. The first world was the united states and it's western european allies. The second world was the soviet union and it's communist eastern European allies. And the third world was everybody else, so yes by that definition new Zealand is a third world country.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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I can imagine possibly marrying someone with different political views from my own, but I think it would be trying sometimes. What I can't imagine is marrying that person without first discussing those differences and making sure she could deal with it. This is something that needs to be discussed before the wedding, and in fact I can't fathom not doing so. I know a lot of people don't like to bring up politics when they know the other person will disagree, but in this case I think it's 100% necessary, immediately.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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Ignorance is bliss, Do you even know the original meaning of the word "third world"? Third world is a cold war geopolitical term. The first world was the united states and it's western european allies. The second world was the soviet union and it's communist eastern European allies. And the third world was everybody else, so yes by that definition new Zealand is a third world country.
Doesn't make it a shyte hole. Ever been to or heard of Newark? That's a shyte hole.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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Ignorance is bliss, Do you even know the original meaning of the word "third world"? Third world is a cold war geopolitical term. The first world was the united states and it's western european allies. The second world was the soviet union and it's communist eastern European allies. And the third world was everybody else, so yes by that definition new Zealand is a third world country.
Wikipedia doesn't agree with you.

"After the Cold War these countries of the First World included member states of NATO, US aligned states, neutral countries who were developed and industrialized, and the former British Colonies which were considered developed. It can be defined succinctly as Europe, plus the richer countries of the former British Empire (USA, Canada, Australia, Singapore, New Zealand) and Japan. Countries were also placed into the First World based on how civilized the country was. According to Nations Online the member countries of NATO after the Cold War included"


First World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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