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Old 03-14-2012, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Isn’t the average salary for a maid about $25,000?

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You think a stay-at-home mom is just a maid? Add nanny, chauffeur, and cook, at the very least. You could also add in teacher and nurse.

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Old 03-14-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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And most of the time, it is the man with the bigger paycheck. As woman have admitted, women will go for men above their level or at the very least, the same. Therefore, yes, the man is normally the one with the bigger paycheck. Sure sure sure, there are exceptions.



Isnít the average salary for a maid about $25,000?

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I know you love to say things like that - as women have admitted..., it's a well known fact that women..., as we all know, women... blah blah blah.

Which women? The ones you googled? Why do you spend so much time googling things like this about women? And the thing is - do you understand that in a relationship based on love - it doesn't matter who has the bigger paycheck? You talk about getting married- but you don't seem to grasp so many of the things that marriage is based on. The only reason that it would matter who has the bigger paycheck is if one parent decides to be a stay at home parent - and in that case it would make sense for the person with the smaller income to stay home. In a loving, solid relationship - the person with the bigger income doesn't lord that fact over the one making less. And a man certainly wouldn't keep saying things like - women have admitted to going for men above them, women are cowardly, women don't like to do anything.

As for the salary of a maid - the fact that you would make this kind of comparison speaks volumes about how you view women.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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You think a stay-at-home mom is just a maid? Add nanny, chauffeur, and cook, at the very least.
A maid does those things and still she doesn’t cook 3 well prepared meals a day. And as for being a chauffeur? Come on, leave that to a family that has teens that need to be taken to the game, then to the mall, then to a friend’s house, etc. But still, it’s nothing out of the extraordinary to have teens drive their own cars anyways. How about when there are no children in the picture? Do you still think it is the most difficult job out there and should be more valued than the husband’s job as courts usually do when there is a divorce?

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As for the salary of a maid - the fact that you would make this kind of comparison speaks volumes about how you view women.
Nope, just how I think of lazy women who stay home when there are no children around. Have a woman post this and you would be agreeing. That speaks volume on how you view men (who disagree with you).
 
Old 03-14-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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A maid does those things and still she doesnít cook 3 well prepared meals a day. And as for being a chauffeur? Come on, leave that to a family that has teens that need to be taken to the game, then to the mall, then to a friendís house, etc. But still, itís nothing out of the extraordinary to have teens drive their own cars anyways. How about when there are no children in the picture? Do you still think it is the most difficult job out there and should be more valued than the husbandís job as courts usually do when there is a divorce?



Nope, just how I think of lazy women. I didn't come up with that number. Have another woman post that and you would agree.
Again - I think most of us have a pretty clear picture on how you view women - and you make it evident again here in your post.

I don't think that anyone is saying that a stay at home mom is worth MORE than her husband. I think we are saying that WORTH is about more than how much someone makes. You keep bringing it back to dollars and cents. Actually, you always try to bring everything back to dollars and cents. Life is about more than dollars and cents. The women who have brought up how much what they do is worth are bringing it up because this is something they have had to consider in the context of whether or not it is better financially to stay at home or to go back to work. They are not bringing it up in the case of divorce or in their overall worth as a human being as you seem so determined to do. If you can't see the value in a woman staying at home to raise her children - then I just don't know what to tell you. If you can't see that a person's worth as a human being is more than how much money they make - then I just don't know what to tell you. If you see someone's wife as being nothing more than a maid - then I just don't know what to tell you. If you only see marriage in terms of divorce -then I just don't know what to tell you.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Again - I think most of us have a pretty clear picture on how you view women - and you make it evident again here in your post.
I view the ones who reciprocate and those who don’t play gender cards or feel gender entitled, differently.

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I don't think that anyone is saying that a stay at home mom is worth MORE than her husband
The courts do when there is a divorce even with those who have NO CHILDREN in the picture.

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If you see someone's wife as being nothing more than a maid
Other people have brought up the numbers, I didn’t bring it up, just replied to that comment. Pay attention to who I respond to when it comes to these things. If it was a woman who said these things, you would be agreeing.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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For your husband, other than working at his job, did he do anything at home? Maybe replacing him would cost 224k/yr

Just food for thought
Thing is that what a man does is not that valued.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I view the ones who reciprocate and those who donít play gender cards or feel gender entitled, differently.



The courts do when there is a divorce even with those who have NO CHILDREN in the picture.



Other people have brought up the numbers, I didnít bring it up, just replied to that comment. Pay attention to who I respond to when it comes to these things. If it was a woman who said these things, you would be agreeing.
I woman who respected herself wouldn't say the things about women that you do.

Honestly - I don't think you really understand what a marriage is. Or real love, for that matter. It isn't about dollars and cents. It isn't about the courts. It isn't about divorce. It isn't about all the stuff that you go on and on about in every one of your posts. It just isn't.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Thing is that what a man does is not that valued.
That's simply not true. I value my husband tremendously. I tell him so everyday. Neither one of us is replaceable.
And I've got news for you - most happily married people don't take into consideration "the courts" when we think about how we love and value the other person. "The courts" have no place in my relationship nor my life.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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I woman who respected herself wouldn't say the things about women that you do.
Oh come on. I have even challenged others when a woman comes to say these same things, Ulysses comes to mind among others, commenting “Interesting to have a woman agreeing in this issue. I guess this thread is over now. Don’t think other female posters will disagree now”.

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Honestly - I don't think you really understand what a marriage is. Or real love, for that matter. It isn't about dollars and cents. It isn't about the courts. It isn't about divorce. It isn't about all the stuff that you go on and on about in every one of your posts. It just isn't.
Girlie, that is what is being talked about in this very thread. You just decide to skip those where I talk about how prenup DOES NOT make sense when someone is thinking about getting married and how unhealthy that can be, the threads I have started about not letting a day go by without telling your woman that you love her or a compliment, how I was the only one who congratulated women in their women day, tips on doing romantic things for your woman, etc. I like a different kind of woman, that’s all. Relax.
 
Old 03-14-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Oh come on. I have even challenged others when a woman comes to say these same things, Ulysses comes to mind among others, commenting ďInteresting to have a woman agreeing in this issue. I guess this thread is over now. Donít think other female posters will disagree nowĒ.



Girlie, that is what is being talked about in this very thread. You just decide to skip those where I talk about how prenup DOES NOT make sense when someone is thinking about getting married and how unhealthy that can be, the threads I have started about not letting a day go by without telling your woman that you love her or a compliment, how I was the only one who congratulated women in their women day, tips on doing romantic things for your woman, etc. I like a different kind of woman, thatís all. Relax.

And almost all of us prefer a different kind of man. Relax.
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