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I also want to add that sexy men use their sexy assess to attract women all day, every day. If you're not one of those men you're not privy to the perks it lends.
Not sure about this. Women proclaim that men are the visual creatures, not them. Women are more about the heart and so on. A rich man with a cool car will get more women than the guy who looks cute and has no job, no car, lives at home, etc.
I have seen for myself over the years that women throw themselves at, and have casual sex with the same dirtbag celebrities, thugs, career criminals, womanizers, physically abusive men, drug addicts, gangmembers and alcoholics. Pretty much every guy has no problem getting women save for the decent honest respectable men; they're simply not wanted.
So now you're stereotyping women in general, based on women you've seen who don't care about or respect themselves? Whatever personal troubles you may have in your past aside, there are practical, biological, evolutionary reasons for women to be more selective than men when it comes to sexual partners. Yes, even in 2012.
I'm a decent, honest, respectable man; and I've had no trouble getting a girlfriend (Perhaps the ones you're referring to are just too boring?) But you're not arguing for respectable men; you're arguing for men who want easy sex.
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So the point is, for some reason women CHOSE the unfair road but then later on cry and try to get sympathy later on in their lives when things don't work out.
Women choose to be the sex that gets pregnant?
Women choose to be more affected by pregnancy than men?
Women choose to be the sex that's more vulnerable to STDs?
This has been... very educational for me, thank you
Why do guys like me have to play games and lie in the beginning just to get the drawers. We have to act like where interested in your personality and what you have to say when in reality all we want are the cheeks??
If a guy is upfront about his intentions..why do most women get offended...
I'm not talking about if she finds him absolutely hideous and wants nothing to do with him; I'm referring to the situation where she shows interest in the guy but all he's looking for is happy hour.
I know its not all women. There are some women who want the same thing as us guys but I'm just talking about the ones who don't appreciate your brutal; honesty in our motives.
"So do you want to hang out or go to the movies>"
"No not really."
" So what do you want to do?"
"I kind want to just cut to the chase."
"?..chase"
"You want to spend the night at my place."
" I was hoping to get to know you." (You've known me for 2 weeks)
"...........: rolleyes:"
Its 2012. You can divorce....the double standards are diminishing between the genders. If you have sex with 2 guys in your lifetime your not labeled a Sl*T anymore.
I shouldn't have to wait 3 centuries, 2,000,000 phone conversations, 17,000,000 text messages exchanges and 15,000 walks in the parks just to get the drawers..
Instead men like me are labeled as dogs, demons, hell spawns and bottome feeders just because where trying to satisfy our neurological and biological needs to reproduce..*sigh*
Well what do you guys think ? Can you relate?
Wait hold on * puts on flame shield, flame helmet, and flame armor*
ok.
Let me do this in a nice adult way so I don't get in trouble.
While I'll always appreciate a man's honesty and respect him more for the straight forward approach, I would NEVER agree to become your own personal c*m dumpster!
I deserve, just like everyone else (man or woman), enough respect from a person than just being good enough to bone and nothing more. No one deserves that treatment.
I would love to find a man that respects me as who I am as the person.
All women want to find that.
So no I don't think it's okay for a guy to lead a girl on just to get in her pants. Nor should a girl do that to a guy.
In short: this mentality is not something I'm okay with. But that's me.
I mean c'mon, this guy has to be trolling to even think that this mentality is even acceptable right??
The thing is, their hook is that men and women should be "equal" in the sexual world. To some men, that means women should feel every bit as obliged to have casual sex as men feel.
The irony is, a woman who takes up a similar lifestyle as that of a man who engages in casual sex... is actually making herself less equal. Explanation:
Woman are the only ones who can get pregnant and suffer through whatever that may entail (even an abortion is hardly snapping your fingers and that's that). They are also more vulnerable to STDs. With that in mind, an illustration:
Person A is wearing a seat belt (Every man is wearing a seat belt, by nature, and that cannot be changed)
Person B is not (Every woman is without a seat belt, by nature, and that cannot be changed)
At 20 mph, person B is at somewhat higher risk of death/injury as they cruise along the freeway than person A.
At 40 mph, person B is at a considerably higher risk.
At 60 mph, person B is at a much higher risk.
At 80, person B is just a fool who let person A talk her into having sex with him while not realizing she's much more likely to suffer for it than he is!
there are practical, biological, evolutionary reasons for women to be more selective than men when it comes to sexual partners. Yes, even in 2012.
I have not seen it and I consider myself well traveled within this country. If anything, ASIAN women tend to pick DECENT guys from day one which is why so many European men are now dating Asian women.
The thing is, their hook is that men and women should be "equal" in the sexual world. To some men, that means women should feel every bit as obliged to have casual sex as men feel.
The irony is, a woman who takes up a similar lifestyle as that of a man who engages in casual sex... is actually making herself less equal. Explanation:
Woman are the only ones who can get pregnant and suffer through whatever that may entail (even an abortion is hardly snapping your fingers and that's that). They are also more vulnerable to STDs. With that in mind, an illustration:
Person A is wearing a seat belt.
Person B is not.
At 20 mph, person B is at somewhat higher risk of death/injury as they cruise along the freeway than person A.
At 40 mph, person B is at a considerably higher risk.
At 60 mph, person B is at a much higher risk.
At 80, person B is just a fool who let person A talk her into having sex with him while not realizing she's much more likely to suffer for it than he is!
I couldn't agree more!
While I believe in safe sex, that doesn't always stop pregnancy, nor all STD's.
Did you know you could still contract HPV from sweat during sex even if the guy is wearing a condom? It's true. One of my straight laced girl friends found that out the hard way after she had a one night stand with a guy she met after a night out on the town. (she got tested just to be safe, because she doesn't normally do that sorta thing). And yes, the doctor did tell her that. I know because I sat on the phone with her for over an hour as she cried about it.
And people are trying to tell me this sort of behavior is okay? Please!
I get what you're saying and feel that both of you are right.
OnihC is right if we're taking about 1st world countries where women hold out and use sex as tool to get what they need in life, and you're right Braunwyn if we were taking about 3rd world countries where the one free pleasure in life is having sex.
It's no different in the US. The poor in this country are having plenty of sex. The rich in this country are having plenty of sex as well. What a few men on this forum have to understand is that you can't have sex with just anyone.
I have not seen it and I consider myself well traveled within this country. If anything, ASIAN women tend to pick DECENT guys from day one which is why so many European men are now dating Asian women.
I posted these reasons THREE TIMES; what more do ya want?
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I couldn't agree more!
While I believe in safe sex, that doesn't always stop pregnancy, nor all STD's.
Did you know you could still contract HPV from sweat during sex even if the guy is wearing a condom? It's true. One of my straight laced girl friends found that out the hard way after she had a one night stand with a guy she met after a night out on the town. (she got tested just to be safe, because she doesn't normally do that sorta thing). And yes, the doctor did tell her that. I know because I sat on the phone with her for over an hour as she cried about it.
And people are trying to tell me this sort of behavior is okay? Please!
See now, all these would-be "men" could read from all that was "Women just want to be difficult". Apparently, a man getting off in this particular way (nevermind the fact that he can get off without putting anyone at any sort of risk) is more important than a woman's health and welfare *shrugs*
Why do guys like me have to play games and lie in the beginning just to get the drawers. We have to act like where interested in your personality and what you have to say when in reality all we want are the cheeks??
If a guy is upfront about his intentions..why do most women get offended...
I'm not talking about if she finds him absolutely hideous and wants nothing to do with him; I'm referring to the situation where she shows interest in the guy but all he's looking for is happy hour.
I know its not all women. There are some women who want the same thing as us guys but I'm just talking about the ones who don't appreciate your brutal; honesty in our motives.
"So do you want to hang out or go to the movies>"
"No not really."
" So what do you want to do?"
"I kind want to just cut to the chase."
"?..chase"
"You want to spend the night at my place."
" I was hoping to get to know you." (You've known me for 2 weeks)
"...........: rolleyes:"
Its 2012. You can divorce....the double standards are diminishing between the genders. If you have sex with 2 guys in your lifetime your not labeled a Sl*T anymore.
I shouldn't have to wait 3 centuries, 2,000,000 phone conversations, 17,000,000 text messages exchanges and 15,000 walks in the parks just to get the drawers..
Instead men like me are labeled as dogs, demons, hell spawns and bottome feeders just because where trying to satisfy our neurological and biological needs to reproduce..*sigh*
Well what do you guys think ? Can you relate?
Wait hold on * puts on flame shield, flame helmet, and flame armor*
ok.
While I agree "getting some" is much more complicated than it needs to be, if all you want is to use a woman for sex, there's a website called backpage.com, go there and click the Escorts section and find a woman who will happily charge you a triple digit fee, get what you want, and be done with it
A girl who makes minimum wage goes out with a guy that can afford the finer things in life. He is rich for her. I think you get it. A guy that has more money than you is richer than you, do you understand that simple concept? So it's the same thing. Women are attracted to men who are above their level just like men go for women who catches their attention. Can't deny those facts.
I think that may be the case for the lower classes, for the uneducated perhaps, for the uncultured, etc. I do not buy into the idea when it comes to the women in my world. The idea of "above level". I do not think most of you could begin to understand what an "above level" could even be for an intelligent woman/person.
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So, same thing, a rich man will be more attractive than the cute guy. A sexy gorgeous beautiful girl in shape will be more attractive than the friendly girl. That is what generally attracts the sexes. I suppose you know this already.
The rich man is not automatically more attractive than the cute guy. It's just not how it works. He's more attractive to the passive prostitute, sure, but not in general.
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