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Old 04-07-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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Do us all a favor and read the Cracked piece. It seems like you haven't, and are instead just talking out your butt. Quote a few things in the article you disagree with, and explain why. Anything else is just hot air.
I just read the list. I'm entitled to read the list and fill in the gaps on my own. I have read MANY articles on men-women dynamics, all of them interesting yet all the same, depending on if written by a man or a woman. Most, not all, Hollywood celebrities are sickening. Many newcomers to the SoCal metro area cite the importance of the entertainment industry as a reason for leaving. As a native of that area, it's one of the greatest places to live, but only doable if you can tune out the Hollywood factor and meet the normal people. It's pretty decadent.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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Why, because cheap is the reciprocal insult to a woman that gentleman is to a man?

Sidebar: Tom Leykis isn't a "shock jock." He's one of the most common-sensical radio personalities out there. Women hate his message.
Plenty of men and women hate his message.

Plenty of men and women love his message.

Oddly enough from my experiences/observations the majority of the guys/gals who like Leykis tend to be misogynists. The remaining guys tend to be self-proclaimed nice/decent/good American guys who bemoan their difficulties with women solely because they're nice and all/most women are evil lying sluts/whores/skanks. The remaining gals tend to be those who have the view of all women but me are bad. I do enjoy him it's always amusing rebuttal to those who state there is no to low misogyny in American culture.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Where Dance Music comes first
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Most porn has nothing to do with pleasing women sexually. Many men today are clueless about the art of making love. They just want what the porn industry has told them what they want- a bukkake party.
Has any of the men you've dated ever proposed the idea of you engaging in a bukkake party?
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Oddly enough from my experiences/observations the majority of the guys/gals who like Leykis tend to be misogynists. The remaining guys tend to be self-proclaimed nice/decent/good American guys who bemoan their difficulties with women solely because they're nice and all/most women are evil lying sluts/whores/skanks. The remaining gals tend to be those who have the view of all women but me are bad. I do enjoy him it's always amusing rebuttal to those who state there is no to low misogyny in American culture.
Leykis knows the score, but he takes crassness to a new level. His use of the word "rack" is kind of annoying. Would most guys date a girl who lifts her top in a car adjacent to his or when he comes to town to do a show to show him (and the world) her "rack?" In reality, he puts down the Hollywood bimbos he's surrounded by. I think most guys wouldn't care about them, anyway. Correct, MOST of the guys I knew in SoCal referred to these girls as a "life support system for a p*$$y."
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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Leykis knows the score, but he takes crassness to a new level. His use of the word "rack" is kind of annoying. Would most guys date a girl who lifts her top in a car adjacent to his or when he comes to town to do a show to show him (and the world) her "rack?" In reality, he puts down the Hollywood bimbos he's surrounded by. I think most guys wouldn't care about them, anyway. Correct, MOST of the guys I knew in SoCal referred to these girls as a "life support system for a p*$$y."
I'm not talking about his crassness. I was discussing the negative assumptive generalizations about the all or the majority of women. As well as his encouraging negative treatment towards women such as encouraging his male listeners particularly the aging ones to treat women like disposable sex dolls.

I do enjoy him though it's a nice rebuttal for any guys bemoaning misandry, that women view all or the majority of men badly, or that women are put on a pedestal.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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Misogynist porn has done a lot of damage to men's relationships with women. Porn used to be more hidden and shame-based but now it's encouraged viewing, available to everybody at any age, and young boys can easily get access to it now. How can viewing that junk at such a young age not warp their opinion of women and sex? They think: so this is how sex is supposed to be, and then they copy it.

Most porn has nothing to do with pleasing women sexually. Many men today are clueless about the art of making love. They just want what the porn industry has told them what they want- a bukkake party.

As a result, many modern men find it difficult to relate to real-life women, so they retreat into their fantasy world made up of model-perfect-women-as-sperm-receptacle, then they become lonely because and all the hot model chicks are not dating them as they've been brainwashed into thinking would happen, then they become bitter towards women which eventually turns all women off to them.

It's a vicious cycle.
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Yes let's blame the porn. Some guys have trouble relating to women, others don't. It really has gotten old how people are always claiming that society is falling apart and yet everywhere I see is that there are many guys out there who have no problem relating to women. And yet people insists on focusing on the guys that have trouble.

It's not the fault of women.
It's not the fault of porn.
It's not T.V.'s fault or video games or any other form of media and technology.

It's there own fault. At some point people have to go out into the real world and see how human beings interact with one another. At some point people have to grow up and realize that T.V. and movies are mainly here to entertain us and have not been created to tell us how life is. Please folks stop with the scapegoating.

Now unlike other people in society I am not judgmental. If a guy doesn't want to have a social life and date and just want to look at porn to release those urges that's fine too, more power to him, just don't whine about not getting any hot girls or getting laid.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Well I think your point of view is full of it. Just my point of view.

Marriage is definitely not going to make my life worth living only I can do that.
Well, thank you for the pleasant conversation.

My point wasn't that people who don't get married don't have worthwhile lives. My point was that people that decide that something isn't even worth trying for because they are AFRAID could be missing out on something wonderful. It's about letting fear rule your life or taking control of your own life.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Misogynist porn has done a lot of damage to men's relationships with women.
Misandrist TV shows/films/advertising and articles in the MSM that always seem to find a way to blame men for all relationship problems have done a lot more damage. Few men are good enough for women anymore, no matter how hard they try. When the men, women are interested in do not reciprocate, they must be using porn!
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Yawn


Yes let's blame the porn.
Well at least it makes a change from blaming feminists
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Well, thank you for the pleasant conversation.

My point wasn't that people who don't get married don't have worthwhile lives. My point was that people that decide that something isn't even worth trying for because they are AFRAID could be missing out on something wonderful. It's about letting fear rule your life or taking control of your own life.
Well, I don't see marriage as a wonderful to me. It only seems like an absolutely miserable existence. I have friends who are married and they're happy and more power to them but I would be miserable if I were married.
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