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Old 04-28-2012, 05:57 PM
 
Location: US
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if I had a girlfriend and was still watching porn with any sort of regularity I would question my skills as a boyfriend.
Good cause you probably should. Between the sheets and emotional connections too.

I really think people enjoy porn because its a fantasy they want to live but are not true to themselves. Or they enjoy the emotional check out of sexual gratification without the strings of "did you take out the trash" etc. They may also be drawn to it by peer pressure of "all guys do this".

Porn doesn't complain, gain weight, have opinions, get sick or care what you do in the rest of your life. Most partners do. I can understand why some would enjoy this emotional disconnection but I do no believe it is healthy to have a lifetime behavior of this habit. I think some people just fall into it because of how people are: "check out this" and then when the novelty dies so does the interest. Other enjoy to continue the fantasy and emotionally checking out of the real world.

Everyone needs stress relief and escapism somewhat. But to label porn as a harmless one is disingenuous. It may not affect your relationship at hand but what is it doing to you emotionally? What could it do to your relationship? What about the exploitation of the workers at the trade? Is it really worth someone else's life risk to get your rocks off?

Despite widespread testing in the porn industry aids is spread through that business along with various other diseases. Just because they are an adult and making their own choices doesn't make it ok. So who are you really cheating? I can't help but think of the butterfly effect this has on things. Its a waste of time and not worth the aftershocks for anyone.

So by using porn you are cheating yourself. But I guess that what makes some feel good?
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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So....date any crack head prostitutes lately? Its not your job to judge a patient's lifestyle choice. It is however a part of picking a partner, friend or discussing things on message boards.

Of age? Two words: Tracey Lords
And that is only one of the ones that got famous. With things like youporn etc you don't know that person is 18. Its even worse regulation with indie production. But you can get tons of indie porn for free over the internet.

And all these porn fans refrain from answering about doing porn themselves or talking their loved ones into it. I guess its only ok if people you don't have to talk to get exposed to diseases, stereotyping and are used like this...
Is that what it is? Since you are not answering...

Some porn is more than vanilla too. That is just flat out nasty. I am going to assume people are talking about vanilla in here and not 2girls1cup or donkey shows etc.
Sorry I didn't answer because I was at work. I think you missed the part of my post where I said as long as it wasn't illegal or done against someones will. You can't control diseases and people who aren't in porn get STD's Aids, etc. I have an RN friend that got herpes from a doctor. It is what it is. I wonder why porn is legal and prostitution is illegal in most states. It's regulated and not illegal in other countries. Do I have a problem with consenting adults watching porn in the privacy of their own bedroom. No. Do I have a problem with child porn. Absolutely. I think people like that should be drawn and quartered along with their customers. It's illegal. Adult porn is not. It's simple, if you are offended by porn don't watch it. To everyone else that's fine with it respect their right to do so. What does taking care of a patient that was a crack prostitute have to do with picking a mate? I'm sorry but I'm a tad confused by that remark. To me she was just an unfortunate human being that made some bad choices that no one has control over. ( Does that donkey thing really exist? I always thought that was some kind of urban legend.)
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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if I had a girlfriend and was still watching porn with any sort of regularity I would question my skills as a boyfriend.
Thank you, young man!
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Thank you, young man!
Hah, I mean until I get a girl I'll keep watching the stuff... but I'd much rather be doing it for real, or hell even making my own (for personal consumption :P) if she's into that sort of thing
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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Hah, I mean until I get a girl I'll keep watching the stuff... but I'd much rather be doing it for real, or hell even making my own (for personal consumption :P) if she's into that sort of thing
I'm not against singles watching it, as long as it's not an addiction.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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First of all, watching porn is not considered a form of cheating, at least among adults with an IQ above 90 and an age above 12.

Almost everyone of every gender looks at porn. And anyone who considers it "adultery" has massive, massive insecurity issues.
I don't think IQ has anything to do with it, except that possibly those with a lower IQ are more likely to go with the flow and not question it.

We don't know how many people look at porn, or the gender ratio. There's really no way to accurately get those stats. To say "almost everyone" is awfully confident of you.

People have the right to believe what they want. But that applies to folks who think porn is cheating, unhealthy, etc. as well.

Addictions come with all sorts of rationalization and other psychological manifestations. I think it could be argued that those without an addiction to porn are healthier and more secure.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I'm not against singles watching it, as long as it's not an addiction.
Same here. I don't mind if couples choose to view it either.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:13 AM
 
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To say "almost everyone" is awfully confident of you.

I think it could be argued that those without an addiction to porn are healthier and more secure.
I agree with you. To say almost everyone watches porn is a very one dimensional view. I would guess that all these people who are throwing the insecure card around are giving it to their spouses as well. That's sad.


I also agree that people with any addiction are not capable of a healthy relationship unless they are in recovery. Not all porn viewers are addicted to it, but we know there are quite a few of them who are.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:53 AM
 
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I don't read them. I used to laugh at the euphemisms in junior high though.
Difference between books and thrones is there is not actual sex taking place and its part of a story not just made for jerkin'.
Personally I hate the cheap filler they put in thrones. When you have to keep stupid peoples' attention and the story is dry, throw in sex...its common marketing for the masses of minute attention spans.

And for all those who think they are not getting chosen over the porn you are just wrong. Do you think they go in there to bake it cookies? No.
They picked satisfying themselves with porn over you. No matter what the stupid reasons is, that is just a fact of the matter.
You've never read a book containing a graphical sex scene?

I choose not to continue this conversation with you because I'm getting a strong negative vibe coming from you (refer to the bold). I don't use those words and I'm afraid we don't speak the same language.

Good luck and have a nice day!
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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First of all, watching porn is not considered a form of cheating, at least among adults with an IQ above 90 and an age above 12.

Almost everyone of every gender looks at porn. And anyone who considers it "adultery" has massive, massive insecurity issues.
What is it that you don't understand about the marriage contract? She owns your seed, she wants all your seed, she can sell it if she wants to and if she stores it and uses it after your divorce to her, you will be on the hook for any child she produces with it.

Of course women consider it cheating! Sort of like employee theft.
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