A lot of men here are accused of hating women: agree or disagree? (kissing, beautiful)

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by Ro2113

Well I'm not promoting misogyny in anyway but I have to disagree with your husband. (of course this has to do with a different social circle) Where I have grown up many misogynistic men have had no trouble getting female attention. These guys treat women far worse than the guys on this site and are constantly referring to every woman outside of family members (and sometimes even them) with derogatory and sexist slurs. Hell many of these misogynistic guys are the deadbeat dads you hear about with several different kids by several different women.

Now before you say it yes, I'm aware of what type of women these guys attract. But from the standpoint of many guys who have never been successful with the opposite sex, being successful with these type of women is better than not going anywhere at all. That's why so many of these lonely dudes look up to the players and join the seduction community.

Yes I really do hate hearing some men talk about women like that. Like get a group of guys together, some alcohol, and they'll bound to be a bit coarse about it. That's why I'm not totally a 'guy's guy' even if I can fit it in other ways.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by AZDesertBrat

Okay...after reading nearly every post in this thread I have to say I am impressed! For the most part it's been insightful, intelligent and only a few 'bumps'. You guys, and gals, are pretty darn good! I was really expecting a big 'slamming' thread. Thanks for making it so interesting.

Yes I'm impressed for the most part...We're not a bad bunch, really!

[imcurious]

It's funny what goes on in people's heads.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by misiu007

Maybe it comes down to:

- Guys unable to get anywhere with women, due to attrocious dating advice they have received from their female family members or friends. You know like, "be a nice guy", " just be yourself", "shower her with gifts", "treat her like a princess", "always bring flowers". Following this type of advice will almost always land a guy in the land of complete failure in the dating world.

- Many women are unable to accept any type of criticism, even if its constructive. 99% of women who are caught cheating for example, will point immediately to what her guy hasnt done in the relationship, which of course was the reason for her actions. Sometimes criticism is warranted, and if someone says the truth about how they feel, it doesnt mean they hate women. Theyre just voicing their opinion.

I think most people in general don't take criticism well, or see things from the other person's point of view.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

A large (Stay At Home) woman with a name like Bertha or Lorna, sitting on her disheveled sofa, with an open bag of Oreos that she's throwing down the hatch. Can't blame her for slam-dunking Oreos, but the Oprah part... One of my friends, probably back in HS or college, came up with slam-dunking Oreos or Big Macs...it's pretty visual.

Lol, you got your stereotypes down to a fine point there, buddy!

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

The "problem" is easily fixable, and that's why I did my 9/9, 7/7, and 5/5 thread...you know, one of my typical "put everything into a tidy box" threads.

If water sought its own level, this "problem" wouldn't exist. However, there are people who are unrealistic and delusional.

Are you saying we should 'stick to our leagues'?

I think that more or else DOES tend to happen, in real life.

[robertpolyglot]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Are you saying we should 'stick to our leagues'?

I think that more or else DOES tend to happen, in real life.

About the slam-dunk Oreo stereotype, one of my friends with a similarly warped "don't miss much" sense of humor coined it. He said something like "some fat biotch on welfare, sitting there on her couch slam-dunking Oreos and watching Oprah." I almost fell off my chair. That one's a keeper.

Yes, stick to who's within your league, and it should be easier ... and more productive.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

About the slam-dunk Oreo stereotype, one of my friends with a similarly warped "don't miss much" sense of humor coined it. He said something like "some fat biotch on welfare, sitting there on her couch slam-dunking Oreos and watching Oprah." I almost fell off my chair. That one's a keeper.

Yes, stick to who's within your league, and it should be easier ... and more productive.

Haha, as offensive as it may be to some people it is an amusing image!

Maybe you're right. It wouldn't prevent drama, but maybe would make things simpler! lol

[Ro2113]

Originally Posted by Urban Sasquatch

It's TRUE! The question is...

Do you swim and sunbathe and surf and picnic and throw a ball and cook out?

Or can you only see the sand between your toes and you don't like it?

No one gets a day on the beach without some sand under their nails or in the occasional "wrong" fold of skin; there's just a major difference between those who remember THAT and those who remember a great day at the beach.

Then there are those who drown.

[bignutz]

Originally Posted by misiu007

Maybe it comes down to:

- Guys unable to get anywhere with women, due to attrocious dating advice they have received from their female family members or friends. You know like, "be a nice guy", " just be yourself", "shower her with gifts", "treat her like a princess", "always bring flowers". Following this type of advice will almost always land a guy in the land of complete failure in the dating world.

- Many women are unable to accept any type of criticism, even if its constructive. 99% of women who are caught cheating for example, will point immediately to what her guy hasnt done in the relationship, which of course was the reason for her actions. Sometimes criticism is warranted, and if someone says the truth about how they feel, it doesnt mean they hate women. Theyre just voicing their opinion.

agree